Time to completely disband FISA courts

[FreeAndClear]

@Safiel

@WuWei

@LucyLou

@conan

Seriously…time to cut the legs off goverment surveillance abuse. If they aren’t going to take abuse of system they are part of then it’s time to deny them that system. This shouldn’t be a left or right, democrat versus republican issue.

As for Christopher Wray…he should have been fired months ago.

Who the hell put Wray in that position in the first place???

Trump. He’s not good at hiring. At all.

Except for Judges, to whom Trump has delegated that power to the Federalist Society who wields it competently.

I think both kavanaugh and Gorsuch are good hires. I may disagree with the positions and politics but they are worthy of the post.

[WuWei]

@FreeAndClear

@Safiel

@WuWei

@LucyLou

@conan

Seriously…time to cut the legs off goverment surveillance abuse. If they aren’t going to take abuse of system they are part of then it’s time to deny them that system. This shouldn’t be a left or right, democrat versus republican issue.

As for Christopher Wray…he should have been fired months ago.

Who the hell put Wray in that position in the first place???

Trump. He’s not good at hiring. At all.

Except for Judges, to whom Trump has delegated that power to the Federalist Society who wields it competently.

I think both kavanaugh and Gorsuch are good hires. I may disagree with the positions and politics but they are worthy of the post.

I disagree about Kavanaugh.

[FreeAndClear]

I forget the name of the judge you wanted.

[conan]

I seen that…it’s what prompt me to start this thread.

FISA judges are just as corrupt, the justice system is just as corrupt.

The entire system needs to be gutted IMO. They’re greater threat IMO then criminals and terrorist. At least we the people can defend ourselves against them…until libs disarm us.

[Safiel]

@FreeAndClear

I forget the name of the judge you wanted.

Here is a relatively recent version of the Trump Supreme Court short list.

I am thinking he wanted Thomas Hardiman, but I am not sure.

United States Courts of Appeals[edit]

• Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit
  • Brett Kavanaugh *** (born 1965)[36][38][35][39] (nominated and confirmed)
• Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit
  • Thomas Hardiman* (born 1965)[14][38][40]
• Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit
  • Don Willett* (born 1966)[14] (appointed by Trump)[note 2]
• Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit
  • Raymond Kethledge* (born 1966)[14][38][40]
  • Joan Larsen* (born 1968)[14] (appointed by Trump)[note 3]
  • Amul Thapar** (born 1969)[15][38] (elevated by Trump)[note 4]
• Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit
  • Amy Coney Barrett*** (born 1972)[35] (appointed by Trump)[note 5]
  • Diane Sykes* (born 1957)[14]
• Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit
  • Steven Colloton* (born 1963)[14]
  • Raymond Gruender* (born 1963)[14]
  • David Stras* (born 1974)[14] (appointed by Trump)[note 6]
• Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit
  • Allison Eid* (born 1965)[14] (appointed by Trump)[note 7]
  • Neil Gorsuch ** (born 1967)[15][16] (nominated and confirmed)
  • Timothy Tymkovich** (born 1956)[15]
• Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit
  • Britt Grant*** (born 1978)[35] (appointed by Trump)[note 8]
  • Kevin Newsom*** (born 1972)[35] (appointed by Trump)[note 9]
  • Bill Pryor* (born 1962)[14]
• Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces
  • Meg Ryan** (born 1964)[15]

United States District Courts[edit]

• Federico A. Moreno** (born 1952) – District Judge, United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida[15]
• Patrick Wyrick*** (born 1981)[35] – District Judge, United States District Court for the Western District of Oklahoma (appointed by Trump);[note 10] also a former Associate Justice, Supreme Court of Oklahoma

State Supreme Courts[edit]

• Keith R. Blackwell** (born 1975) – Associate Justice, Supreme Court of Georgia[15]
• Charles T. Canady** (born 1954) – Chief Justice, Supreme Court of Florida[15]
• Thomas Rex Lee* (born 1964) – Associate Justice, Utah Supreme Court[14] (possible candidate for a circuit court vacancy)[36]
• Edward Mansfield** (born 1957) – Associate Justice, Iowa Supreme Court[15]
• Robert P. Young Jr.** (born 1951) – Former Chief Justice, Michigan Supreme Court[15]

United States Senators[edit]

• Mike Lee** (born 1971) – Senator from Utah[15][38]

[conan]

The recommendations that David Kris and FISA courts are going to make is to make it harder to get caught.

[tnt]

@WuWei

Without transparency there is none. Secret courts and judges always end up this way.

but the nature of the accusations demand confidentiality. For both parties.

[conan]

I believe the FISA renewal will be coming up in March. Republicans must shut it down. A vote to continue is a vote for allowing democrats to spy on you.

Learn you lesson republicans. Stop giving them power to use against YOU.

[Samson_Corwell]

@tnt

@conan

Seriously…time to cut the legs off goverment surveillance abuse. If they aren’t going to take abuse of system they are part of then it’s time to deny them that system. This shouldn’t be a left or right, democrat versus republican issue.

As for Christopher Wray…he should have been fired months ago.

I’m fine with the, issuing you have an alternative that is expedient, confidential and protectant of the rights of all involved.

Make it all public, weigh the intelligence agencies down under ten layers of bureaucratic oversight, and eliminate all black budgets.

[Samson_Corwell]

@Roxiebelle

They reached a much higher level of corruption and filth under the previous Administration and it’s the main reason that Trump got elected. He called out Obama as the worst President in our history and ran a campaign that would reverse Obama policies that crippled the country that was within his power to do and the leftist and Democrat deranged protection of Obama’s toxic legacy is what drives the TDS of the left!

Your absolute derangement is clouding your perception of reality. The intelligence community has always been like this.

[tnt]

@Samson_Corwell

Make it all public, weigh the intelligence agencies down under ten layers of bureaucratic oversight, and eliminate all black budgets.

Misguided accusations against citizens re: terrorism can do lasting damage to the accused.

[Samson_Corwell]

@tnt

@Samson_Corwell

Make it all public, weigh the intelligence agencies down under ten layers of bureaucratic oversight, and eliminate all black budgets.

Misguided accusations against citizens re: terrorism can do lasting damage to the accused.

You know what? That’s a damn good point.

[Samson_Corwell]

@tnt

@Samson_Corwell

Make it all public, weigh the intelligence agencies down under ten layers of bureaucratic oversight, and eliminate all black budgets.

Misguided accusations against citizens re: terrorism can do lasting damage to the accused.

But how is this any different than, e.g., accusations regarding rape?

[Samson_Corwell]

@conan

A vote to continue is a vote for allowing democrats to spy on you.

And a vote for allowing Republicans to spy on us.

[tnt]

@Samson_Corwell

But how is this any different than, e.g., accusations regarding rape?

Not sure. Aren’t those charges run through the confidential grand jury system?

[Samson_Corwell]

@tnt

@Samson_Corwell

But how is this any different than, e.g., accusations regarding rape?

Not sure. Aren’t those charges run through the confidential grand jury system?

I’m not sure they would be. But even if they aren’t, wouldn’t arrest warrants and search warrants be public information?

[WuWei]

@FreeAndClear

I forget the name of the judge you wanted.

Raymond Kethlidge

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

Without transparency there is none. Secret courts and judges always end up this way.

but the nature of the accusations demand confidentiality. For both parties.

No, they demand leg work.

[tnt]

@Samson_Corwell

I’m not sure they would be. But even if they aren’t, wouldn’t arrest warrants and search warrants be public information?

Sure, if it passed the first round of scrutiny, that being the confidential grand jury process. (I don’t know if this is exactly how all court cases work, but I think it is)

[tnt]

@WuWei

No, they demand leg work.

Leg work requires warrants.