This Trump/Wallace interview on Fox is awesome

WuWei · 2020-07-20T14:11:38.585Z

Munimula1:

WuWei:

Munimula1:

AZslim:

Even more interesting/troubling, at the end of this ■■■■■■■ crazy interview, the President of the United States refused to say he would leave office if he lost the election.

Even more amazing is the all the flag waving, patriotic, anthem standing, gun toting constitution loving, conservative trump supporters don’t say a word.

Let that sink in.

Speaker Pelosi addressed that possibility this morning. She said that a new POTUS would be inaugurated as usual.

That’s correct, not because she says so.

The Constitution says so.

Yeah, not Pelosi.

WuWei · 2020-07-20T14:13:03.943Z

kermode:

WuWei:

I call it lying because that’s what it was.

So what? So you get one shot to influence 350 million people.

Great, they lied. I agree.
And since April they fessed up.
Two thirds or so have accepted that and wear masks.
So that leaves us with a third that truly are too stupid (and that includes the “President”).

Fessed up? No. Rationalized.

The President wears a mask.

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kermode · 2020-07-20T14:24:45.496Z

WuWei:

Fessed up? No. Rationalized.

The President wears a mask.

OK rationalized. So ■■■■■■■ what?
We are where we are, now.

As for the “President” wearing a mask, I listened to his verbal diarrhea yesterday. You did, too.

WuWei · 2020-07-20T14:29:26.135Z

kermode:

WuWei:

Fessed up? No. Rationalized.

The President wears a mask.

OK rationalized. So ■■■■■■■ what?
We are where we are, now.

As for the “President” wearing a mask, I listened to his verbal diarrhea yesterday. You did, too.

Forget the lies of the past? “Trust me now, I love you?”

Hard thing, winning trust back.

It’s not just the cloth face coverings.

BlueHeron · 2020-07-20T14:32:13.487Z

amadeus:

What. You think every health care worker is wearing an N95?

My daughter is an RN an got her first N95 mask since February last week. She was told not to expect any more for awhile.

party-free · 2020-07-20T14:32:54.459Z

WuWei:

Yeah, that’s generally what happens after you tell 350 million people “You don’t need…”, then change your mind.

It’s what happens when the president and VP both refuse to lead by example, even suggesting masks were being worn to “signal disapproval” against them, AFTER they issued guidance that masks should be worn:

April 3, 2020 at 9:36 p.m. CDT

President Trump announced new guidance Friday that people in the U.S. wear face coverings in public to slow the spread of the coronavirus, a reversal of the administration’s earlier recommendations. But Trump immediately said he himself would not choose to do it, even though “it may be good” advice, reflecting the sharp debate in recent days between the White House and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/03/white-house-cdc-turf-battle-over-guidance-broad-use-face-masks-fight-coronavirus/

It’s been a classic case of “do as I say, not as I do, but don’t even do what I say because it makes me look bad” since April. April. In 2 weeks, that will have been 4 months ago.

Less than a week after the WH said masks should be worn on April 3rd, Pence didn’t wear a mask at the Mayo Clinic. At the end of May, Trump didn’t wear a mask to a Ford factory that was making ventilators and PPE. And we just recently saw the president wear a mask for the first time.

Imagine if the president, and the VP/head of the COVID task force, had been leading by example for 4 months.

kermode · 2020-07-20T14:33:49.839Z

WuWei:

Forget the lies of the past? “Trust me now, I love you?”

Hard thing, winning trust back.

It’s not just the cloth face coverings.

Yeah, winning back trust is hard.
But it can be done, with effort.
Most of us have accepted that with masks. Others can’t or won’t.

amadeus · 2020-07-20T14:39:01.513Z

BlueHeron:

amadeus:

What. You think every health care worker is wearing an N95?

My daughter is an RN an got her first N95 mask since February last week. She was told not to expect any more for awhile.

The situation is disgraceful. American exceptionalism.

WuWei · 2020-07-20T14:39:50.097Z

kermode:

WuWei:

Forget the lies of the past? “Trust me now, I love you?”

Hard thing, winning trust back.

It’s not just the cloth face coverings.

Yeah, winning back trust is hard.
But it can be done, with effort.
Most of us have accepted that with masks. Others can’t or won’t.

Effort on whose part?

kermode · 2020-07-20T14:40:57.080Z

BlueHeron:

My daughter is an RN an got her first N95 mask since February last week. She was told not to expect any more for awhile.

That’s tragic.
Trumps brags incessantly about “all the ventilators”, but has said ■■■■ all about N95’s.

party-free · 2020-07-20T14:41:10.484Z

3.5 months after officially issuing guidance that masks should be worn, but ignoring that guidance personally, and flaunting that in public, and suggesting people following the guidance were signaling their disapproval of him.

Yeah, it’s gonna be hard to earn that trust, and it shouldn’t be terribly difficult to understand why.

When science gets it wrong, they usually say “here’s how we got it wrong, and here’s how we’re going to work to improve it.”

When Trump gets it wrong, he immediately starts playing the victim and looking for a scapegoat.

Trump has been crying wolf for 3.5 years now-the problem is that a lot of people are out there actually fighting wolves now and don’t want to hear it from him any longer.

kermode · 2020-07-20T14:43:37.805Z

WuWei:

Effort on whose part?

Those who lied, and the so-called leader of the country.
They made enough effort for me and at least 2/3 of us, in spite of the leader doing ■■■■ all.

WuWei · 2020-07-20T14:59:42.024Z

kermode:

WuWei:

Effort on whose part?

Those who lied, and the so-called leader of the country.
They made enough effort for me and at least 2/3 of us, in spite of the leader doing ■■■■ all.

Have they made that effort?

So-called leader of the country? The President? Did he lie about the masks?

WuWei · 2020-07-20T15:01:59.178Z

kermode:

They made enough effort for me and at least 2/3 of us,

What effort did they make? They rationalized it and you accepted it? That battered public syndrome, not love.

And you still blame Trump.

kermode · 2020-07-20T15:07:24.292Z

WuWei:

Have they made that effort?

So-called leader of the country? The President? Did he lie about the masks?

Yes they did. I understood the rationale and moved on.
Why. all the defense for those too stupid or too stubborn to do the same?

Yeah, the so-called leader. He made no effort support the change in April, and right up to yesterday.

SeaManatee · 2020-07-20T15:10:53.634Z

my thought process through this:

When they said you didn’t need a mask but medical professionals do: So if they work, why don’t i need one? And we aren’t doing testing so we don’t know who has it so i could be in contact with people…

When they said you should wear a mask: ah hah! I knew it! You wanted to keep the good masks for medical professionals.

Now they went on to say they only realized later that asymptomatic people could spread it and etc etc and i’m skeptical. But that doesn’t mean i’m going to boycott masks out of spite.

And the president of the united states is in a unique position of having a large amount of supporters that believe him and ONLY him, not the deep state at the CDC, not a random surgeon general, him. And from him, he doesn’t wear masks and views them as a personal attack against him, schools are being closed to hurt him, democrats are using coronavirus as their next big hoax, and on and on and on. Feels like that window is firmly closed and he has absolutely no desire to reverse course.

WuWei · 2020-07-20T15:15:20.227Z

kermode:

WuWei:

Have they made that effort?

So-called leader of the country? The President? Did he lie about the masks?

Yes they did. I understood the rationale and moved on.
Why. all the defense for those too stupid or too stubborn to do the same?

Yeah, the so-called leader. He made no effort support the change in April, and right up to yesterday.

So you accepted the lie.

He was lied to as well.

WuWei · 2020-07-20T15:17:32.572Z

They still haven’t said we need a mask. They say we need a cloth face covering.

Some people are slow to forgive.

tnt · 2020-07-20T15:19:35.079Z

WuWei:

They still haven’t said we need a mask. They say we need a cloth face covering.

Some people are slow to forgive.

Get over it.

If you want to open the country, wear a mask.

SeaManatee · 2020-07-20T15:21:13.768Z

WuWei:

kermode:

WuWei:

Have they made that effort?

So-called leader of the country? The President? Did he lie about the masks?

Yes they did. I understood the rationale and moved on.
Why. all the defense for those too stupid or too stubborn to do the same?

Yeah, the so-called leader. He made no effort support the change in April, and right up to yesterday.

So you accepted the lie.

He was lied to as well.

Well that explains all of Trump’s behavior.