This Is Insane - Fulton County Schools

“The district administration does not support Mr. Miller’s actions relating to this event and believes his conduct failed to meet the professional expectations it has for employees. Mr. Miller inappropriately intervened in a student matter being handled by school administrators and law enforcement. Mr. Miller acted outside of the scope of his authority and responsibilities,” Fulton County Schools said in a statement to Fox News Digital on Thursday.

“Mr. Miller’s conduct resulted in an escalation of a physical altercation with a student in crisis, which conflicts with district expectations to deescalate in these types of situations. Mr. Miller has not exhausted his due process rights at this time and remains on full, paid administrative leave.”

Gun aside, she hit him. He should be reinstated and the entire administration fired - based on this account.

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They should have honored him. Insane is definitely the correct word for this stuff.

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Not saying I agree with the firing…But is this one of the situations where say a store employee gets physical with someone trying to steal, stops the thief and theft,… but the company policy is not to try to physically stop a theft in progress, and the employee is fired for doing so?

BTW…The headline is written to imply that she had the gun on her person…it was found later in a back pack.

That is a misleading title.

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Did you watch the video? Once she hit him, he should have every right to do what he did. He didn’t even hit her back he only restrained her.

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In watching the video? I thought he showed remarkable restraint.

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No…I just asked a question about the policy.

I have no idea if this is insane.

This is a horribly written story…I can’t figure out what actually happened.

Does the video show?

I highly doubt any policy that would state you can’t defend yourself if you are assaulted can be legal.

The administration is saying he intervened in a matter that was being handled by the administration and law enforcement.

That is…he inserted himself into the situation and escalated it.

But the story is so badly written that I have no idea what the incident actually was…and was wondering if the video…which I haven’t watched yet…will make that clear.

A local take on the story. (I did not go to the FOX link)

Tri-Cities High School coach fired | 11alive.com.

Looks like he did a bit more than restrain. It is also unclear if he was “attacked” to the point he needed to take the action he did…

That being said, it was an intense exchange, and the teacher did not look to harm the student.

I wonder if there is more to the story…or the teacher’s history.

When you watch the video you will see it’s from the body cam of a cop who is standing near the door to the room it appears. The man and the girl are standing closest to each other. She is next to the long part of a desk while he is on the short side. There is no audio, she slaps him, he grabs her and pushes her against the wall until the cops step in. If it matters, the girl is pretty close to the same size as the guy.

Right but does the video show him walking into a situation he was originally not a part of or does it start with the altercation?

My larger complaint is when did journalists become such bad writers?

That was a terribly written story that made absolutely nothing clear.

To me it doesn’t matter if he walked in or not and the video doesn’t show that he did. She hit when he was doing nothing but standing there (though I have no idea what he was saying).

I do agree the story is badly written, which is why I am only going by what I can see on video.

Ok well that will help clear stuff up…for some reason I am having a hard time getting the video to play.

If all he was doing was standing there and then he got attacked? Whether he was supposed to be there or not is irrelevant IMHO. He can’t be said to have escalated the situation…she did.

But when I can finally watch the video then I will comment more.

Thanks.

What are they teaching in journalism school these days? The local story that was posted was not much better.

When they got into the practice of editorializing instead of just sticking to the 5 W’s.

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The Principal had called the Athletic Director into his office to assist with investigating reports of firearm on campus.

The Athletic Director investigated and turned up someone suspected of having a firearm (which turned out to be true).

When confronted the student attempted to get physical with the Athletic Director who acted to restrain the student. NOTE: The student didn’t have the firearm readily available, the reports say it was found later in her backpack.

It’s hard to tell without knowing the full context to the exchange up to the point where the video picks up, but:

  • If the incident had been going on for some time as a heated verbal exchange, then the Administrator could have stepped in and told the Athletic Director to let him/her and the police officer to handle it at that point. If the Athletic Director DIDN’T back off at that point, then there is a problem. One worth firing for? Not in my opinion. Maybe some after incident review and discussion on how to better handled it would have been in order, but that’s about it.

  • On the other hand if the time frame in question is mere seconds and the student striking the Athletic Director with no time to deescalate, then the Athletic Directors actions to restrain the student seem just fine.

(NOTE: The object you can appear to see in the video is the Athletic Directors cell phone that was in his hand. If damaged the student or their parents should be responsible for paying for a new phone if it was damaged.)

WW

You have an Inherent Right to defend yourself.

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That doesn’t mean your employer can’t fire you.

“Those in non-union workplaces may face a more untenable situation, in that they might be disciplined or terminated whether the fight was their fault or not. In “right to work” states, employees can be terminated for any reason or no reason at all. As a result, many employers will let go of workers involved in a fight, whether they were they threw the first punch or not.”

https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/attacked-at-work-what-are-my-rights-36479

Hopefully he can sue for damages since he has an inherent right to defend himself.

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