Fair enough, should have read the whole thing before I posted it.
But it misses an important aspect of this conversation, which is that we’re discussing murder, not crimes of opportunity like theft or speeding.
No worries, who says the dead can’t vote?
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I don’t believe its so simple… and I came to that conclusion with my brain.
JayJay
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No it doesn’t.
You’re making a huge assumption about why people kill.
There’s a middle ground that’s probably close to the truth.
Jail, or the treat of it, is not likely to prevent an initial killing out of anger.
But it will prevent that person from doing it again.
JayJay
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Highly doubtful, for the most part.
People that do those sorts of crimes are working from a totally different set of assumptions than people that don’t.
Again…for the most part.
The notion that threat of punishment deters crime is not founded on a whole lot of empirical data.
More likely it is what was said earlier…we punish criminals we catch because we have decided there needs to be a penalty for wrongdoing.
It’s more for some kind of redress rather than deterrence.
You’re seeing the data right now. In the body count.
You are making a huge mistake. I’m making no assumption at all. I couldn’t give a rats ass as to why people kill. But I do know that in woke cities where they have removed to po-leece. There is much more killin. No assumption needed.
He can’t kill an innocent citizen if he is still in prison for killing the 1st person.
Keeps POS like the one who stomped and badly injured the Asian lady in NY the other day from getting the opportunity. That is beyond dispute.
He was out after brutally murdering his mother 17 years ago. Should have never been released.
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JayJay
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First of all- no…most “woke cities” have not, in fact, removed their police. Reduced budgets does not equal “police removed”.
Secondly, there are many more factors at play than just one. Your attempt at a correlation is a vast over-simplification.
The bulk of the surge in violence in the cities comes from the violent summer months in the wake of the death of George Floyd and has little if any correlation to police budgets in those cities.
And most of these cities were facing budget cuts anyway due to COVID slowdowns.
A LOT of factors at play.
CNN was soooo disappointed when they could not label him a white supremacist.

Only if “WE” are not looking. The numbers are real. Your stupid defund the po-leece movement is getting black folks killed. Thousands of them.
Yes a possibly/probably bigoted black man isn’t newsworthy over there.
But then they don’t report news anyway but are rather a propaganda arm for the dem party.
I’m pretty sure a little more po-leece defunding would have prevented this.
Or resulted in even many more like him roaming about loose.
It has and it will. L.A. is disbanding their entire gang unit with 700 active cases. Just forget about it. Turn em loose and move on. I actually don’t feel sorry for L.A. They voted for this. They will suffer for it.
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You must have misread your narrative papers. No one here is talking about why people kill. They (we) are talking about the ones who DONT kill. You have no statistics on those people. They don’t make headlines. No one even knows who they are. They don’t break the law.
Send your narrative writers a note and tell them to get into their think tanks and come up with a counter argument that makes sense.
JayJay
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By assuming threat of punishment deters people from killing, one is indeed talking about why people kill.
Sorry. You are wrong. We are talking about why people DONT kill. Get your money back from your personal narrative coaches.