No, you and sneaky did.

You haven’t experienced the half f it. Just wait until you begin to realize that they put 100 pounds in bags of stuff marked 50 pounds. :wink:

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I did that just prior to my 2nd back surgery. :grimacing:

Let’s cut to the chase. You spoke about rights. Clearly my point is why should men have different rights over their own bodies than women? Is it because a woman can become pregnant? Do not both men and women have equal rights over their own bodies? Are women that unequal?

There’s always more than one body involved in an abortion.

Every successful abortion kills at least one human being.

Men and women are different by natures’ very design.

So, women are unequal with regards to their own body?

Men and women are different by natures’ very design.

Don’t you think that there was also a man involved in that process?

Thus they have unequal rights?

Yes they are, you don’t care.

You are engaging in yet another circular argument.

Abortion laws apply equally to both men and women.

One that is inhabiting a woman’s body against her will.

Do men have abortions? Maybe they should carry children?

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You don’t have a right to kill someone for living in your house once their invitation is rescinded either.

If a woman consents to sex she also consents to the possible consequences.

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More circular argument.

How about you quit derailing the thread now?

Sure. But good to know where you stand.

I stand where I’ve always been, every successful abortion kills at least one human being by design.

What part of not causing harm to others while asserting your rights do you not understand?

Men don’t. We too have the right to kill ourselves.

No they aren’t and yes I do.