The wall funding in exchange for the dreamers?


#142

Yes, even after committing misdemeanors (up to 3). As long as they meet the right illegal conditions.


#143

There’s little evidence for what you fear.

And you deal with it by making it part of comprehensive reform, not making it harder on people who have pretty much been here all their lives.


#144

You seem to having an issue following the plot here.


#145

Speaking comprehensive immigration reform, if that’s passed, it needs to be a felony to be in the country illegally, and the punishment is immediate deportation. Otherwise we’re roght back in the same boat in a decade.


#146

Just saying it’s hard to get deported while covered under DACA.


#147

Ok.

How does that relate to the conversation we were having?


#148

Just a little side trip highlighting some of the other perks they get.

I asked what should be required of them on this “pathway to citizenship” but nobody seems able to give me an answer.


#149

Dream Act legislation has been continually proposed since Dubya was first elected. Though I haven’t kept up on the particulars of the latest editions, I expect most any of them would be acceptable to me.


#150

Well, that’s a policy question. A lot of criteria have been suggested.

Military service/college degrees, 5 year wait for a green card, another 5 to apply for citizenship was the DREAM Act standard, I think.


#151

And if they fail to meet any of those requirements?


#152

Trump isn’t offering them amnesty. He’s offering them a three year extension so he can use them as a bargaining chip again.

So in other words, they’re hostages.


#153

I answered. You ignored it. It’s okay to not respond, but don’t pretend it didn’t happe.


#154

Then they don’t become citizens.


#155

But get to stay.


#156

Well, no. If they don’t meet those qualifications, they’re in the same legal situation as any other illegal immigrant.


#157

Where is it? I apologize if I missed it.


#158

Even though this is the only country they’ve ever known?


#159

As the law is written, yes.


#160

#161

Thanks.

Which of those are tenable to Democrats now?