The seven most dangerous cities are all run by Democrats

[WuWei]

Useless metric if you have to deploy the military in the streets of a US city.

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

Useless metric if you have to deploy the military in the streets of a US city.

There are 52 weeks in a year…. If you have 4 weeks of higher than average crime (resulting in an increase in force) and 48 weeks of lower than average crime…

What does that trend line look like? Is it going down or up?

[WuWei]

It looks like military personnel deployed in the streets of a US city apparently.

But we don’t live in a police state.

[Cratic3947]

and California has the most poverty when you calculate in the cost of living. Which is the only honest way to do it…

[WuWei]

And unfunded liabilities.

[Samm]

@FreeAndClear

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@Samm

Yep … Crime is down in NYC …

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/06/nyregion/subway-national-guard-police.html

It is. This was a thing when crime was at historic lows in 2017 It was one of the reasons why

Police plan more patrols after NYC transit attack

Yeah, right … the Governor is calling up the National Guard because crime is down.

The governor called up national guard in 2017 when the crime was at record lows. Its triggered by events. Just as it was then.

What event is happening now other than crime?

[Samm]

@FreeAndClear

@DMK

@Samm

Yeah, right … the Governor is calling up the National Guard because crime is down.

So, what exactly is the National Guard going to do? Detain people for arrest so they can be back on the streets in an hour?

Broken windows. Police and ng presence creates an aura. It also creates an aura of a police state but we don’t talk about that

Is that what is happening now in NYC?

[Samm]

@FreeAndClear

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@Jezcoe

@Samm

Yep … Crime is down in NYC …

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/06/nyregion/subway-national-guard-police.html

Hochul is wasting resources doing security theater instead of doing anything to actually solve the problem.

Solving the problem is hard…. Looking like you are solving the problem is easy.

I agree. New Yorkers should live with what they voted for without burdening the rest of the State.

Big cities be like that. But it’s ok crime is on its way down from covid highs.

So then, why is the NG being deployed to the big city?

[Samm]

@FreeAndClear

Yeah in 2017 It was a spurt of attacks even though crime was overall down.

Same premise here.

What attacks are happening now?

[Samm]

@FreeAndClear

The 2017 case proves my point. One or two attacks resulted in NG being deployed… It’s politics

The Mayor of NYC is a Democrat. The Governor of New York is a Democrat. What political game are they playing and why are they playing it?

[Jezcoe]

@Samm

@FreeAndClear

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@Jezcoe

@Samm

Yep … Crime is down in NYC …

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/06/nyregion/subway-national-guard-police.html

Hochul is wasting resources doing security theater instead of doing anything to actually solve the problem.

Solving the problem is hard…. Looking like you are solving the problem is easy.

I agree. New Yorkers should live with what they voted for without burdening the rest of the State.

Big cities be like that. But it’s ok crime is on its way down from covid highs.

So then, why is the NG being deployed to the big city?

Because the Governor wants to be seen as being tough on crime in an election year by wasting resources on security theater.

[Jezcoe]

@Samm

@FreeAndClear

The 2017 case proves my point. One or two attacks resulted in NG being deployed… It’s politics

The Mayor of NYC is a Democrat. The Governor of New York is a Democrat. What political game are they playing and why are they playing it?

Adams is a cop and does what cops do…. Throw money at the NYPD no matter what. Heck… he even wasted thousands of taxpayer dollars on a stupid subway robot that needed two officers to be with it at all times.

Hochul is wanting to look tough on crime during an election year is is doing that by flexing her authority over the MTA to not do anything about the homeless in the subway system but do TSA style bag inspections in midtown.

It’s very stupid.

[Samm]

@Jezcoe

@Samm

@FreeAndClear

@Samm

@Jezcoe

@Samm

Yep … Crime is down in NYC …

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/06/nyregion/subway-national-guard-police.html

Hochul is wasting resources doing security theater instead of doing anything to actually solve the problem.

Solving the problem is hard…. Looking like you are solving the problem is easy.

I agree. New Yorkers should live with what they voted for without burdening the rest of the State.

Big cities be like that. But it’s ok crime is on its way down from covid highs.

So then, why is the NG being deployed to the big city?

Because the Governor wants to be seen as being tough on crime in an election year by wasting resources on security theater.

Why? Is she running for Mayor?

[Jezcoe]

@Samm

Why? Is she running for Mayor?

It’s an election year.

She wants to show that she… as a Democrat… is really serious about crime by doing theater which is easy instead of actually addressing the problem of random violent attacks in the subway…. Which is hard.

[Samm]

@Jezcoe

@Samm

Why? Is she running for Mayor?

It’s an election year.

She wants to show that she… as a Democrat… is really serious about crime by doing theater which is easy instead of actually addressing the problem of random violent attacks in the subway…. Which is hard.

Doesn’t she know that calling out the guard is associated with emergencies and/or martial law?

[Jezcoe]

@Samm

@Jezcoe

@Samm

Why? Is she running for Mayor?

It’s an election year.

She wants to show that she… as a Democrat… is really serious about crime by doing theater which is easy instead of actually addressing the problem of random violent attacks in the subway…. Which is hard.

Doesn’t she know that calling out the guard is associated with emergencies and/or martial law?

I am sure that she does.

This whole thing that she is doing is a complete waste of everyone’s time and money imo.

[TheRedComet]

Every time someone deploys the guard for internal security I’m reminded of that powerful scene from Patlabor 2 where the Japanese government overreacts and deploys the JSDFGF for internal security.

Craziest part of that scene is how normal everyone acts about something that should freak everyone out. Like everyone should be weirded out by military forces deployed as crime fighters. That’s not their job.

As a response to natural disaster, yes that’s fine. If local society completely collapses upon itself, then fine. But for routine crime prevention? No one should be ok with that.

[Jezcoe]

@TheRedComet

Every time someone deploys the guard for internal security I’m reminded of that powerful scene from Patlabor 2 where the Japanese government overreacts and deploys the JSDFGF for internal security.

Craziest part of that scene is how normal everyone acts about something that should freak everyone out. Like everyone should be weirded out by military forces deployed as crime fighters. That’s not their job.

As a response to natural disaster, yes that’s fine. If local society completely collapses upon itself, then fine. But for routine crime prevention? No one should be ok with that.

The last time we had bag checks to enter the subway was soon after 9/11.

It was stupid then and it is stupid now.

The money should be spent on getting the homeless some services so they aren’t living in the subway system doing drugs and going crazy.

Last year the NYPD increased patrols in the subway to the tune of $150 million in overtime costs. During that surge they caught an equivalent of $104,000 in fare beaters and went crime down 2% but assaults still went up.

This move is especially stupid. Going to major hubs and doing random bag checks like someone can’t just walk out and get into the subway at another entrance. It’s all theater.

[TheRedComet]

That requires political logistics that just aren’t there. Homelessness is criminalized in this country. It’s hard to ask politicians, who want to be seen as tough on crime, to try and fix a problem that most people see as criminal, not societal.

[WuWei]

Why is homelessness a problem?