The sad state of so many public schools in America

socialization outcomes? lol.

Allan

  1. Myth
  2. Im a garbage society?
  3. Is public school to “socialize” or teach?

ai says

Disadvantages of homeschooling include the heavy financial and time commitment for parents, potential for social isolation due to less consistent peer interaction, and the strain on family relationships. It can also be challenging to replicate school facilities like science labs or gymnasiums, and it may require parents to be comfortable teaching a wide range of subjects.

homeschooling is good in some ways. others it is not.

the negatives outweigh the positives in my opinion.

Allan

public education offers spontaneous socialization whereas homeschooling is a MUCH more controlled environment.

Allan

The food thing is more that they can’t buy that through purchase orders. With the govt programs in the food arena, schools cannot pay for certain things outside of the USDA guidelines they agreed to follow to get their money. The food programs are really restrictive in that regard. That’s why they buy those things out of their own money. The school would lose funding and get their hand slapped. Been there, seen that.

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Stop dude.

“Socialization” with thugs, bullies, drug addicts, criminals.

What kind of parent wants that “socialization” for their children?

7 hours a day, 5 days a week, forced to sit in a chair and be indoctrinated to the lowest common denominator with a curriculum developed by state morons.

lol. buying into the propaganda i see.

Allan

its okay though.

lots of people are feed the same misinformation.

Allan

I went to public schools.

so did i. different outcomes.

Allan

When I taught, I could choose not to create bulletin boards, not to create learning centers for individualized instruction, and not to provide students with basic supplies when parents couldn’t afford them, or thought that new designer sneakers each month were more important. I could even choose to forego having a classroom library of books geared to the reading levels of the students.

Of course, my evaluations would already have me in arrears for lacking those things, as they are state requirements for classrooms of highly effective teachers.

Because homeschooling isn’t a cookie cutter approach?

Public schooling is more a failing manufacturing line.

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Here’s an interesting story of what was once a great school:

From 1870 to 1955, this all-Black public school drew ambitious families from across the country — parents relocating just to enroll their kids for the best shot at life. Sowell described these families as “aspirational,” meaning they sought to overcome any obstacles. They were a determined people, and such people cannot be stopped. The classrooms were full, sometimes overcrowded, but the results did not lie. Dunbar graduates outscored white schools on exams, and nearly all went on to college — some to the Ivy League.

However, the move toward integration after Brown v. Board of Education in the late 1950s gutted the parent-choice movement — what we call school choice today. Dunbar was no longer open to all of D.C. but became a neighborhood school, drawing students mainly from the immediate area. Worse, the top Black students who lived within the school limits were often bused out to white schools.

Standards plummeted almost immediately. By the 1970s, it was struggling. Elaine told me it has only gotten worse. She would know — she attended Dunbar in the late 1990s. Today, fights break out weekly. The football team was recently suspended after a bench-clearing brawl, and games were forfeited. There are metal detectors everywhere, but they are useless against the chaos of unruly kids who exhaust many of the teachers.

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Maybe in your school district. In mine in Texas local district drives are held to make available school supplies for those who need help. Also the state of Texas has a program to make supplies available if children’s parents need them.
And yes, even formthe children of Biden’s illegals he dumped on our systems.

ai says

…Approximately 95% of public school teachers purchase classroom supplies with their own money. Teachers frequently spend their own money on a wide range of items, including basic supplies like pencils and paper, classroom decorations, and even technology subscriptions, often spending hundreds of dollars per year.

Allan

Video is not available. Get a new source so I can figure out what you’re talking about.

Really Al? There’s plenty of bad kids in public schools:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/colleen-ritzer-was-killed-by-her-14-year-old-student/vi-AA1LAbG7?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=b423f15371704c63ddde39f9e8d53a1c&ei=49

There’s other links in the thread as well, but here are some things I would highlight:

About half of U.S. adults (51%) say the country’s public K-12 education system is generally going in the wrong direction. A far smaller share (16%) say it’s going in the right direction, and about a third (32%) are not sure, according to a Pew Research Center survey

The scary truth about how far behind American kids have fallen

The FBI released a new report August 12 on crime in schools and it’s a wake-up call that no parent can afford to ignore. Between 2020 and 2024, law enforcement agencies reported nearly 1.3 million criminal incidents occurring on school property across the United States. This staggering figure includes about 540,000 assaults and 45,000 sex offenses – crimes that directly victimize children in places that are supposed to be safe havens for learning.

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