Again, you are far to bright to be comparing private institutions in the elective, selective US college system to the compulsory non-selective, 100% tax payer funded US elementary/high school system.
Re: vouchers, one has nothing to do with the other.
This has been my idea about vouchers:
Rather than give 100% vouchers, give 50%. It’s still a decent bump over zero to those who would otherwise leave if they could.
But let the school district retain the other 50%.
If money is the root problem in the public school system, this would increase the per-student amount without changing how much government money is getting spent.
BTW, here is the piece Gaius posted from Achive so it’s free.
Really worth a read. Fascinating, honest and informative.
I think that’s a fair proposal.
. . . So Dyhlan is pulled out of class along with other lagging readers every day for small-group tutoring in reading. Each child is tested weekly, with scores posted in a green, yellow or red zone, indicating how likely it is that they will pass a big reading test in the spring. (The charts identify pupils by a number, not by name.)
That test is a milestone, for in 2013, Mississippi adopted a third-grade gate — meaning that all third graders must pass a reading test to advance to fourth grade. The state then set up a system to monitor all students beginning in kindergarten to help get them on track to pass the test. . . .
and
if they fail the reading test twice, they are pressed to attend summer school and will get one final chance to pass before fourth grade begins. If they fail that last chance, they normally must repeat third grade. . .
Vouchers or not, you are absolutely right. The key to well-educated youth is engaged parents. Of course there are exceptions both ways, but the involvement of parents can even lead to mediocre-intelligence children succeeding and excelling as students. Without that support and encouragement from at least one parent, even bright kids can easily drift off course.
Did you read that article above? It shows the power of engaged parents AND teachers….
But yes, and it’s teh kids with engaged parents who are helping them at home, getting them tutors, making sure they are fed and ready for school etc… who tend to use vouchers to pull their kids, and the money associated with them, out of the public school. Since these kids are the more affordable ones to teach, more money goes with those kids than was needed to educate them, creating a deficit of sorts, and leaving the more expensive kids to educate behind.
Well, you could infer that wiht only a little imagination.
It said they instituted standardized testing, ended social promotion, and took attendance seriously, up to and including threatening parents with legal action.
All of that is gonna get the parents’ attention.
So . . . your imagination (inference) is not too far off.
They did all those things with forethought, which shows engagement. The teachers retracing kids performances closely and individually - engagement - reaching out to parents if things go sideways - engagement - and carefully deciding what’s in teh best interest of the students education - engagement.
That piece is really, really interesting and is right to challenge a lot of previous notions about education. I hope it continues to get attention.
One of the points in the article that grabbed me was
'For many years, skeptics have offered dispiriting arguments about the prospects for educational gains: The way to improve literacy is to fix the family, fix addiction, fix the parents, for as long as the child’s environment is broken, there’s not much else that can be done.
The gains in these states suggest that that critique is wrong. Mississippi and Alabama haven’t fixed child poverty, trauma and deeply troubled communities — but they have figured out how to get kids to read by the end of third grade.
The unwritten part of the article is that
Although the core of their changes (the solution) has to do wiht attendance and “you can’t pass 3rd grade if you can’t read”
They implemented programs (special classes, summer school, etc.) around that, and those programs are not free.
That part grabbed me too, and I definitely was in that camp, thinking the way to solve education was solve home life.
Their solution is KISS. Direct and common sense. It’s great.
Here’s the thing about vouchers which I support. Unfortunately there are numerous public schools that have many problems and are failing many students:
DiNapoli: Bullying, drug cases in N.Y. schools rising DiNapoli: Bullying, drug cases in N.Y. schools rising
And most of these schools are not going to reform overnight for various reasons one in particular is lousy administrations.
Well . . . at least they haven’t ■■■■■■ up everything.
The Bronx High School of Science
established 1938 has strict testing requirements to get in
and strict testing requirements to stay in.
Since 1972 the school has produced 9 Nobel Laureates (7 in Physics)
Excuse me as someone married to a Stuyvesant grad I resent this post 
It’s also the case that the parents that genuinely care more about the education their kids receive want more choices:
Trump administration passes federal tax credit scholarships for school choice | Fox News Trump administration passes federal tax credit scholarships for school choice | Fox News
I don’t think there was a dry eye in the room. And for everyone in that room to hear directly from a recipient of a school choice scholarship, her story moved the room," ACE spokesperson Dacia Henshaw told Fox News Digital.
With President Donald Trump standing behind her at the podium, Alexander, a mother of three, shared the story of losing one of her sons, Terrance, to drug addiction. She expressed relief that her daughter, Miracle Alexander, was able to attend private school due to receiving an ACE scholarship.
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