The right wins in Italy

Rurudyne · 2022-09-26T20:38:26.226Z

Still ends up in the same lake.

W_and_C · 2022-09-26T20:40:42.636Z

Rurudyne:

Still ends up in the same lake.

Well, what does one do if their pro-life position is deeply unpopular amongst most of the electorate, even in red states ? You can keep doing you and risk getting completely shut out of elections and consequently, any power, you can argue your position and hope people see it your way (unlikely), or you can moderate/downplay your position and have a better chance at competing and winning.

Guvnah · 2022-09-26T21:00:44.819Z

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

Everyone expects opposition; but after Kansas vote this opposition seems to be a bit quieter.

‘A wakeup call’: more Republicans are softening staunch anti-abortion stance | Republicans | The Guardian

That’s what I predicted in the Kansas thread. This society is not ready to accept the full humanity of the unborn, in spite of the science of embryology. And most certainly, far too many people are willing to allow the tug of emotional arguments to trump principles. And because of that, no ban will succeed or survive for long without exceptions to the common poster-child arguments abortion advocates like to parade in every abortion discussion. Politicians that stubbornly stick with all or nothing doom their efforts to result in nothing.

Bill.in.PA · 2022-09-26T21:32:24.787Z

If a modern definition of fascism is “an authoritarian merger of corporate and government interests”, then the EU government fits the definition.

In real life, “fascist” tends to take on the meaning of “someone I don’t like politically”. In the 1920s and 30s, the German Antifa classified anyone they disagreed with as “fascists”. Antifa regularly allied with the National Socialists against centrist parties that supported a parliamentary, democratic government.

Janet_Miller · 2022-09-26T21:32:45.918Z

While not a feminist or pro “choice” except in cases where a pregnancy or birth defect are not survivable, some of this woman’s ideas and behaviors are disturbing:

Common Dreams – 26 Sep 22

Giorgia Meloni's Anti-Women Politics and the Future of Italy

Meloni's policies are what you would expect from the leader of a party that descends from the nation's neofascist past.

Making a video of a rape—even with the woman’s image blurred—to make a point? Particularly against immigrants? Really?!?!?!

A majority of the Italian electorate picked her & her party. Let them deal with her

Gaius · 2022-09-26T22:30:31.426Z

Here she is shouting (and in kind of an irritating manner)
1.) Railing against a UN Immigration compact that would require Italy, a nation very close to poor N African countries, to open its borders
and
2.) Verbally attaching it (the UN immigration compact) to some international conspiracy of speculators, and she names George Soros.

Right wing view of immigration? Sure I’ll take that label
. . . But to “rightist” Giorgia Meloni, problems are never the fault of government nor liberals nor leftists nor socialists. Problems are always caused by capitalism, free markets, stock markets, corporations and rich people.
The apparent solution is always more lefty economic policies.

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JayJay · 2022-09-26T22:46:07.017Z

BraveGear:

FreeAndClear:

this was a nation of city-states for centuries

And, America is a collection of separate states, does that mean we don’t have a collective national identity?

It’s quite possible we don’t and never have, save in extraordinary times.

thinkingman · 2022-09-26T23:58:56.315Z

good ol news….

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Ben_Natuf · 2022-09-26T23:59:40.325Z

lots of fascism here

Fox Business

Republican states announce opposition to Manchin energy permitting deal:...

A group of nearly 20 Republican attorneys general wrote a letter to Senate leadership Monday arguing against Democrats' permitting reform legislation unveiled by Sen. Joe Manchin.

this bill flat out sucks.

Nemesis · 2022-09-27T00:07:11.019Z

But its not fascist is it. The fact they can voice their opinion and not vanish in the middle of night proves the United States is the furthest thing from a fascist state.

Ben_Natuf · 2022-09-27T00:11:34.168Z

despotism is not unique to fascism.

this kind of stuff isn’t either, but it is fascist policy

However, the GOP attorneys general said the bill would give the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) the authority to “command utilities” to construct new transmission facilities. It would also empower state utility companies to receive funding from out-of-state taxpayers, they said.

“These provisions eviscerate state sovereign authority, commandeer companies to carry out the will of a three-vote majority of FERC Commissioners, undermine the power of each citizen’s vote to decide policies at the state level, and inevitably force the citizens of our states to subsidize the costs of expensive and unreliable energy policy preferences of California and New York,” the letter stated.

textbook

bigtwnvin · 2022-09-27T00:22:11.681Z

That’s exactly what the Italian media is doing to Giorgia Meloni and the fratelli d’Italia.
“God, Family, Country” is now a bad thing?

Axxowiz · 2022-09-27T00:34:59.518Z

In that clip she just sounds like a social conservative, I wish the media would quit frivolously labeling people fascists.

bigtwnvin · 2022-09-27T00:36:13.544Z

Manchin’s support is a payback for a pipeline that benefits no one but WVA

Gaius · 2022-09-27T00:44:25.664Z

bigtwnvin:

That’s exactly what the Italian media is doing to Giorgia Meloni and the fratelli d’Italia.
“God, Family, Country” is now a bad thing?

Becasue she couples her pro god family and country views with a conspiracy by inestors speculators capitlists corporations etc…

It’s one thing to say “There are only two genders.”
It’s anoht thing to say “The people who want you to believe there are more tha two genders are part of an vst right wing conspiracy. We ned more government control of industry and more left wing economic policiesto counter that secret conspiracy.”

Nemesis · 2022-09-27T01:11:36.189Z

bigtwnvin:

That’s exactly what the Italian media is doing to Giorgia Meloni and the fratelli d’Italia.
“God, Family, Country” is now a bad thing?

Maybe take a look at her broader statements over the past few years. No one is saying god family country is wrong perspective on life.

Let me guess the Italian media, the European media and media all over the globe are now part of the liberal elite?

Liberty323 · 2022-09-27T01:13:44.111Z

So predictable!

DougBH · 2022-09-27T01:34:03.525Z

Yeah. Not fascist. Maybe a bit of a conspiracy theorist, though.

Gaius · 2022-09-27T01:58:35.688Z

Same leftwing economic polices
combined with social conservatism.

I am not surprised netizens would say her policies remind them of fascism,
but shame on the media for attaching that word. (sincerely)

SixFoot · 2022-09-27T01:59:54.358Z

Has Italy fascist’ed anyone yet?