The real problem with critical race theory

[Paul_Thomson]

@WuWei

Institutions. Let’s see the VMI policy allowing racial discrimination

It’s probably not real racism if it happens to every race.

[WuWei]

@biggestal99

@WuWei

Where’s the policy?

Unwritten, naturally.

Allan

Then how are you going to prove your accusation?

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

Institutions. Let’s see the VMI policy allowing racial discrimination.

Which are made of up people. People write policy. People create culture. Often culture is in line with policy… sometimes it isn’t.

You can have a policy of “don’t be racist” and still have racism in your institution. Without enforcement (in line with your policy) racism can persist contrary to your policy (written and enforced by humans)

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

Institutions. Let’s see the VMI policy allowing racial discrimination.

Which are made of up people. People write policy. People create culture. Often culture is in line with policy… sometimes it isn’t.

You can have a policy of “don’t be racist” and still have racism in your institution. Without enforcement (in line with your policy) racism can persist contrary to your policy (written and enforced by humans)

Sure, sure. Show the policy.

[WuWei]

Here’s a little article listing a few “examples” of “structural racism”.

http://abcnewsradioonline.com/national-news/virginia-military-institute-leader-resigns-after-state-opens.html

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

@PurpnGold

Which are made of up people. People write policy. People create culture. Often culture is in line with policy… sometimes it isn’t.

You can have a policy of “don’t be racist” and still have racism in your institution. Without enforcement (in line with your policy) racism can persist contrary to your policy (written and enforced by humans)

Sure, sure. Show the policy.

Without looking I can bet that this institution has a policy of non discrimination.

The better question is, how is it being enforced? Are people held accountable if they go against that policy?

Another good example of this is Uber. They had an entire DE&I policy and yet their org ran rampant with sexual misconduct and discrimination. Their CEO was even complicit. Having a policy is meaningless unless it’s enforced.

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

Without looking I can bet that this institution has a policy of non discrimination.

I can too.

@PurpnGold

The better question is, how is it being enforced? Are people held accountable if they go against that policy?

Vigorously.

@PurpnGold

Another good example of this is Uber. They had an entire DE&I policy and yet their org ran rampant with sexual misconduct and discrimination. Their CEO was even complicit. Having a policy is meaningless unless it’s enforced.

What happened to the CEO?

Uber fires more than 20 employees after sexual harassment investigation

And $4.4M in settlements.

[Guilds]

Earlier in this thread, @WuWei asked how racist policies effected white folks as well… as POC.

I had mentioned the community swimming pool situation in the OP, how poorer white families also were denied an opportunity to enjoy cooling off and playing in a community pool when communities chose to close those pools, rather than allow black families allowed to use the pools after jim Crow laws were struck down.

All of those poll tests and poll taxes during Jim Crow, effected poor, under educated whites as well…their vote was also stolen from them.

When Reagan attacked welfare, and used the urban welfare queen myth to push to cut benefits…that also effected poorer white families…in fact, by sheer numbers, it effected them more.

Here is an example of system racism, more recent. The methods banks used on POC, was eventually used on white people as well, when the programs that were pushed were very profitable for the banks. Note, the majority of these loans were not for new home purchases, they were refi’s. Many people never recovered from that…still today.
And many of those people, are not POC.

Wells Fargo to pay $175 million in race discrimination probe

[WuWei]

If it affected all races based on wealth, it wasn’t racist, now was it?

[Guilds]

@WuWei

If it affected all races based on wealth, it wasn’t racist, now was it?

It was targeted at POC. Poorer, uneducated white folks were negatively effected by those racist actions.

Any comment on the community pool scenario?

[WuWei]

@Guilds

@WuWei

If it affected all races based on wealth, it wasn’t racist, now was it?

It was targeted at POC. Poorer, uneducated white folks were negatively effected by those racist actions.

Any comment on the community pool scenario?

Amazing contortions there.

Only anecdotal, I learned to swim in a segregated pool. Poor white folks didn’t have a lot of time to hang out at the pool. Most of us went to the river or swam in canals anyway. Town was too far.

[FloridaYankee]

Thousands of pools were closed because of desegregation. That’s not anecdotal.

[WuWei]

@FloridaYankee

Thousands of pools were closed because of desegregation. That’s not anecdotal.

Yes, they were. I never heard it was because of poor whites.

[FloridaYankee]

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

Thousands of pools were closed because of desegregation. That’s not anecdotal.

Yes, they were. I never heard it was because of poor whites.

I think the point was that poor whites were greatly affected.

[WuWei]

@FloridaYankee

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

Thousands of pools were closed because of desegregation. That’s not anecdotal.

Yes, they were. I never heard it was because of poor whites.

I think the point was that poor whites were greatly affected.

I’d like to see evidence poor whites went to those pools when they were open.

[Guilds]

@WuWei

Only anecdotal,

Indeed.

[Guilds]

@WuWei

I’d like to see evidence poor whites went to those pools when they were open.

Good gawd…

Have a good day.

[WuWei]

@Guilds

@WuWei

Only anecdotal,

Indeed.

Whatchoogot?

[WuWei]

@Guilds

@WuWei

I’d like to see evidence poor whites went to those pools when they were open.

Good gawd…

Have a good day.

Show it.

[biggestal99]

@WuWei

Then how are you going to prove your accusation?

It’s just my opinion. It’s not factual. How can it be?

Your opinion differs.

Allan