The Problem Isn’t Access to Firearms

[Paul_Thomson]

@WuWei

Why? They don’t enforce them now.

Increasing the penalties given, then.

[WuWei]

They don’t make them serve what’s already in the books.

[Paul_Thomson]

@WuWei

They don’t make them serve what’s already in the books.

I’m not disagreeing with you. And it makes their claims to care about gun violence and their calls for stricter laws pretentious and vacuous when they don’t insist already on imposing the penalties already prescribed and they run defense for state prosecutors who minimize penalties and charges in cases of violence.

[Guvnah]

@WuWei

They don’t make them serve what’s already in the books.

I think Paul Thomas is making the suggestion with the condition that the penalties WOULD get enforced.

I can see the value in both your statements and Paul’s.

[WuWei]

It would disproportionately affect black people. Proof of racism.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@bigtwnvin

Nice try, that’s a oft proven lie the gun grabbing anti-2A ■■■■ for brains community continues to trot out when these types of shootings occur. Could the weapon be from out of state? Of course it could be from Mexico too or some other place stolen and sold on a black market.

Sure, but the fact that California has the most stringent gun laws of any state in the country is irrelevant

[WuWei]

No, it isn’t. Everybody in California is required to follow California law.

[Paul_Thomson]

@Supreme_War_Pig

Sure, but the fact that California has the nost stringent gun laws of any state in the country is irrelevant

Does California enforce strictly the laws they have against assault? Or are they reducing sentences and dropping prosecutions ?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Paul_Thomson

@Supreme_War_Pig

Sure, but the fact that California has the nost stringent gun laws of any state in the country is irrelevant

Does California enforce strictly the laws they have against assault? Or are they reducing sentences and dropping prosecutions ?

The point is that “the most stringent laws” aren’t protecting California because guns can come from out of state. It is therfore disingenuous to imply that nothing can be done.

[WuWei]

Guns can can what from out of state?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@WuWei

Guns can can what from out of state?

Corrected. Guns can come from out of state

[WuWei]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@WuWei

Guns can can what from out of state?

Corrected. Guns can come from out of state

That’s illegal.

[Paul_Thomson]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@Paul_Thomson

Does California enforce strictly the laws they have against assault? Or are they reducing sentences and dropping prosecutions ?

The point is that “the most stringent laws” aren’t protecting California because guns can come from out of state. It is therfore disingenuous to imply that nothing can be done.

You didn’t answer my question. Is California applying stringent enforcement of its present raft of laws against violence ?

If not, they don’t really care about stopping the violence, but want it to get worse to justify bringing in more stringent laws to disarm citizens… which they will then choose to stringently enforce.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

@WuWei

Guns can can what from out of state?

Corrected. Guns can come from out of state

That’s illegal.

So what? As Paul just pointed out, it could also come from Mexico or the black market.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Paul_Thomson

@Supreme_War_Pig

@Paul_Thomson

Does California enforce strictly the laws they have against assault? Or are they reducing sentences and dropping prosecutions ?

The point is that “the most stringent laws” aren’t protecting California because guns can come from out of state. It is therfore disingenuous to imply that nothing can be done.

You didn’t answer my question. Is California applying stringent enforcement of its present raft of laws against violence ?

If not, they don’t really care about stopping the violence, but want it to get worse to justify bringing in more stringent laws to disarm citizens… which they will then choose to stringently enforce.

I am not going to indulge your conspiratorial nonsense.

[Paul_Thomson]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@Paul_Thomson

You didn’t answer my question. Is California applying stringent enforcement of its present raft of laws against violence ?

If not, they don’t really care about stopping the violence, but want it to get worse to justify bringing in more stringent laws to disarm citizens… which they will then choose to stringently enforce.

I am not going to indulge your conspiratorial nonsense.

One of the woke exit doors. They include “Conspiracy!” “Racist!” And a recent one “Binary!”

[Supreme_War_Pig]

Why should I feel compelled to engage poppycock such as:

@Paul_Thomson

they don’t really care about stopping the violence, but want it to get worse to justify bringing in more stringent laws to disarm citizens…

[WuWei]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

@WuWei

Guns can can what from out of state?

Corrected. Guns can come from out of state

That’s illegal.

So what? As Paul just pointed out, it could also come from Mexico or the black market.

So it’s already illegal. More laws are the answer. What laws would you like to see?

Maybe something with “… and now we really mean it!”

[WuWei]

@Supreme_War_Pig

Why should I feel compelled to engage poppycock such as:

@Paul_Thomson

they don’t really care about stopping the violence, but want it to get worse to justify bringing in more stringent laws to disarm citizens…

Is it not true? There’s only one other answer I can think of.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

@WuWei

Guns can can what from out of state?

Corrected. Guns can come from out of state

That’s illegal.

So what? As Paul just pointed out, it could also come from Mexico or the black market.

So it’s already illegal. More laws are the answer. What laws would you like to see?

Maybe something with “… and now we really mean it!”

I don’t want any more laws.