The Problem Isn’t Access to Firearms

NCREDSTATE · 2022-04-07T18:53:47.316Z

tnt:

Know for a while the ‘enforce existing laws’ is a lark. We need real reform, and measures that actually will have a good effect.

Horse ■■■■■

Further restrictions on law abiding citizens will accomplish nothing.

You want results? Time to start limiting prosecutorial discretion and building prisons.

Start with this;

Felon in possession, 10 years minimum, no plea bargaining, no good time, no parole.

Commit a felony while in possession, 10 years minimum, no plea bargaining, no good time, no parole.

Felon lying on 4473, 5 years minimum, no plea bargaining, no good time, no parole.

The thugs will get the idea.

WuWei · 2022-04-07T19:00:49.664Z

NCREDSTATE:

Felon in possession, 10 years minimum

That’s already the law.

WuWei · 2022-04-07T19:01:36.090Z

NCREDSTATE:

Felon lying on 4473, 5 years minimum

Already.

WuWei · 2022-04-07T19:02:05.362Z

tnt:

You’ll never teach out all the criminals.

If we want fewer americans to die from guns, we need a new approach.

What do you want?

Striker840 · 2022-04-07T19:03:36.651Z

WuWei:

NCREDSTATE:

Felon lying on 4473, 5 years minimum

Already.

IF they prosecute.

WuWei · 2022-04-07T19:04:25.177Z

Striker840:

WuWei:

NCREDSTATE:

Felon lying on 4473, 5 years minimum

Already.

IF they prosecute.

There’s the problem.

Striker840 · 2022-04-07T19:06:22.068Z

WuWei:

Striker840:

WuWei:

NCREDSTATE:

Felon lying on 4473, 5 years minimum

Already.

IF they prosecute.

There’s the problem.

Ya think??
Lol yet tnt conveniently overlooks that piece.

WuWei · 2022-04-07T19:07:47.028Z

Well, it’s not their fault; institutional racism and poverty made them do it.

NCREDSTATE · 2022-04-07T19:18:51.828Z

What GAO Found
Investigations and prosecutions. Federal and selected state law enforcement agencies that process firearm-related background checks through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) collectively investigate and prosecute a small percentage of individuals who falsify information on a firearms form (e.g., do not disclose a felony conviction) and are denied a purchase. Federal NICS checks resulted in about 112,000 denied transactions in fiscal year 2017, of which the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) referred about 12,700 to its field divisions for further investigation. U.S. Attorney’s Offices (USAO) had prosecuted 12 of these cases as of June 2018.

https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-18-440

One year, 12 out of 112,000 failed background checks were prosecuted.

Yea, a few more laws to ignore will do it for sure.

NCREDSTATE · 2022-04-07T19:20:42.542Z

WuWei:

Well, it’s not their fault; institutional racism and poverty made them do it

Needs to be taken out of the hands of SJW prosecutors.

But that doesn’t disarm the general population.

Samm · 2022-04-07T22:49:12.907Z

tnt:

e7alr:

Enforce the laws, already in place, broken by these individuals, instead of passing new laws aimed at the law abiding.

How do you enforce these laws in some way as to avoid people getting murdered by the criminals?

That’s a problem, but putting more restrictions on guns and gun owners most certainly not the solution. (Yet that’s the first thing that comes out of lib’s mouths when incidents like this hit the news.

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/d/did/did2222.0000.840/--conversation-discussion?rgn=main;view=fulltext#:~:text=Conversation%2C%20discussion%3B%20these%20two%20words,talk%20concerning%20a%20precise%20subject. )

Samm · 2022-04-07T22:52:21.583Z

WuWei:

Where are y’all getting “automatic fire”?

https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article260138775.html

WuWei · 2022-04-07T22:59:07.622Z

Thank you.

WuWei · 2022-04-07T22:59:41.271Z

It’s not a problem, it’s impossible.

Paul_Thomson · 2022-04-08T03:09:53.052Z

tnt:

How do you enforce these laws in some way as to avoid people getting murdered by the criminals?

Have you asked the police?

Paul_Thomson · 2022-04-08T03:15:47.048Z

WuWei:

tnt:

You’ll never teach out all the criminals.

If we want fewer americans to die from guns, we need a new approach.

What do you want?

Redefine “American” in a way the gives better statistics for “Americans”?

Or redefine “gun deaths” in a way that significantly reduces the number of “gun deaths”?

Dyswoke politics.

Scratch · 2022-04-09T21:07:25.290Z

USA TODAY

Federal officials investigating after 3 killed, weapons stolen in gun range...

Federal authorities, concerned by the number of weapons stolen, have offered a reward of $15,000.

If only the unfortunate victims were allowed to be armed, this never would have happened.

Samm · 2022-04-09T21:10:53.390Z

Quit trolling.

Scratch · 2022-04-09T21:16:01.754Z

Samm:

Quit trolling

Yea…I know it kinda goes against the whole, if everyone was armed this kind of thing wouldn’t happen argument…

Samm · 2022-04-09T21:17:20.106Z

No it doesn’t. Not even a little.