Another day… another call by the President for the Fed to have negative interest rates.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1172120964232093697

I don’t think he understands that negative interest rates are not a good thing.

What we are really talking about is the legitimacy of a privately owned banking cartel called the Federal Reserve having a monopoly in the circulation of our nation’s medium of exchange, and renting out, or setting interest, on the use of their Notes.

Why should the American people pay interest to a private banking cartel called the Federal Reserve to use worthless scrip rented out by them, when our government could circulate interest free United States Notes?

Why is America’s labor and industries forced to give a portion of their productivity to a private banking cartel to rent their Bank Notes which have no intrinsic value? This is a version of the same crap the mob pulled when collecting “protection money” from business owners. Trump is right in wanting to cut out this parasitic middle-man.

Is it not a fact our founders specifically forbid our federal government to “emit bills of credit”, and likewise forbid Notes of any kind, to be made a “legal tender”?

JWK

“The Federal Reserve banks are one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this nation is run by the International bankers” — Congressman Louis T. McFadden (Rep. Pa)

And yet you refuse to trade such worthless scrip for metal coinage feature images on Washington and Jefferson

So… do you advocate for the nationalization of all private banks… because that is what it is sounding like.

No. I do not advocate nationalization of any banks. I advocate removing the following words which appear on Federal Reserve Notes: “THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE”.

Our founders intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine which “notes” if any, are “safe and proper”. The creation of the Federal Reserve System, a monopoly, and making its “notes” a legal tender, is exactly what our Founders specifically rejected when refusing to allow Congress to emit bills of credit on August 16th of the Convention.

For those who are not familiar with our founder’s specifically stated intentions during the framing of our Constitution, here is what transpired during the convention with regard to bank notes being made a legal tender. SEE The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16

Mr. Govr. MORRIS moved to strike out “and emit bills on the credit of the U. States”-If the United States had credit such bills would be unnecessary: if they had not, unjust & useless.

Mr. BUTLER, 2ds. the motion.

Mr. MADISON, will it not be sufficient to prohibit the making them a tender? This will remove the temptation to emit them with unjust views. And promissory notes in that shape may in some emergencies be best.

____ cut _____

Mr. READ, thought the words, if not struck out, would be as alarming as the mark of the Beast in Revelations.

Mr. LANGDON had rather reject the whole plan than retain the three words “(and emit bills”)

On the motion for striking out
N. H. ay. Mas. ay. Ct ay. N. J. no. Pa. ay. Del. ay. Md. no. Va. ay. [FN23] N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.

[FN23] This vote in the affirmative by Virga. was occasioned by the acquiescence of Mr. Madison who became satisfied that striking out the words would not disable the Govt. from the use of public notes as far as they could be safe & proper; & would only cut off the pretext for a paper currency, and particularly for making the bills a tender either for public or private debts.

The irrefutable fact is, our founding fathers intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine what notes, if any, were safe and proper to accept in payment of debt, and they specifically chose to forbid folks in government to make a particular bank note, or any “note”, a legal tender, which if allowed would literally force people and business owners to accept worthless script in payment of debt.

As a matter of fact, one of the delegates to convention who helped frame our Constitution who lived in Connecticut was defrauded by a legal tender law made in Rhode Island which required him to accept worthless script in payment of debt. As one of the delegates to the Convention Rodger Sherman was quite influential in prohibiting our government to emit bills on the credit of the United States and likewise prohibiting folks in government making notes of any kind a legal tender in payment of debt!

To lean how Roger Sherman was defrauded see his work titled: A Caveat Against Injustice … An inquiry into the evils of a fluctuating medium of exchange.

And, the question is, how is it not a crime for the Treasure of the United States and Secretary of the Treasury to sign Federal Reserve Notes which declare on their face “THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE“? Should they not be charged with misfeasance and malfeasance in addition to complicity with a privileged banking institution which defrauds the public with unconstitutional Federal Reserve Notes?

JWK

“Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring class of mankind, none have been more effectual than that which deludes them with paper money. This is the most effectual of inventions to fertilize the rich man’s field by the sweat of the poor man’s brow.” _____ Daniel Webster.

So you advocate for multiple competitive currencies?

Can’t we already do that? Try paying for something with euros or pounds next time you’re at the store. :wink:

It has been a little while since the President talked about interest rates.

I guess he has been a little busy.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1187373187820130306

"Germany is getting paid to borrow money. "

I don’t think that he understands how any of this works. Just what we want in a President.

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See Oregon Gas Station Accepting 90% Junk Silver as Payment

May 17, 2011

Many people who buy coins like pre-’65 dimes, quarters and half dollars do so to protect themselves from the effects of this inflation – and to have a highly valuable medium of exchange in the event price inflation spirals out of control.

One sign pointing to this phenomenon was recently spotted at a Shell gas station off Interstate 5 in Ashland, Oregon.

JWK

Democrat leaders claim to be advocates for hard working people. If that is so, why do they not expose the thieving and parasitic nature of the 1913 created “Federal Reserve System”, which Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr.,surmised “… the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill”.

The President is going on again.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1189198697059553285

Why does the President believe that negative interest rates means that you get paid to borrow money.

Is he really this willfully ignorant?

One could only imagine an economic basket case of a country that would have negative interest rates and a Trillion dollar deficit.

I am still not sure why the President thinks that negative interest rates are a good thing

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1227271072535498754

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So the Federal Reserve did an emergency rate cut down 50 basis points to 1.25%.

The President doesn’t feel that this really low rates isn’t nearly low enough.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1234869067892305923

I personally find it bonkers that a strong and robust economy has to have 1.25 % interest rates and trillion dollar deficits.

But that is just me.

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It is bonkers, because that leaves no tools for when there is a sustained downturn.

He could care less about the long term health of the economy, it’s all about himself (and his buddies debt) and sustaining a sugar high, no matter how reckless it is.

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That is a real problem that I am seeing.

There are no preparations being made for when the economy tanks when Bernie Sanders becomes President.

Quantitative Easing is the only tool left in the toolbox and that has barely just gone away… in some senses it is still happening.

Monetary Inflation

Quantitative easing is one of those terms that needs to go to the trash can.

Call it what it actually is.

Just like another stupid term I hate, pre-owned car. Call it what it is, a used car.

Thank you for indulging me in that brief rant.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled topic, already in progress.

Fair enough.

But the process that they used was a little different than simply flooding the market with money… basically shoring up bonds… ( I know… I know… it is a more complicated than that but…) and that is one of the differences.

The fact that at a certain point the Federal Reserve held actual real estate like malls and such is bonkers and shows just how much ■■■■ the entire economy was in at the time.

Curtailing global travel due to coronavirus as well as ongoing quarantines in China are causing real supply chain disruptions and also shrinking real economic activity.

The Fed making money more readily available will prop up stock prices, but won’t make the virus go away or cause any real economic growth.

This is beyond stupid.

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I agree.

This is for the market, not the long term health of the economy.

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Of course. He wants to have the fed plaster over his faults. He wants to be an autocrat. He isnt getting this from ANY school of economic thought. Not MMTers, not keynesians, not monetarists, not austrians.

is infation over the feds target? if not (which it is not) then interest rates should reflect that. not stay at a higher level “just because”.