The Panic Phase, Pain Phase and the reopening

Paul_Thomson · 2020-11-02T18:01:14.546Z

One has to keep in mind that Jared and his wife are liberals who nevertheless love and respect Trump. Their descriptions of events will necessarily be from a liberal perspective

One could describe a case of surgery as a methodically slicing someone open and removing parts of their organs or, as delicately and carefully removing a lethal cancer from someone’s body. One sounds callous, the other kind.
Jared’s description of what happened is one liberal insider’s interpretation. The constitutionalist insider’s perspective may also fit the facts and make reasonable sense to the outsider.

Paul_Thomson · 2020-11-02T18:05:10.560Z

SottoVoce:

Doctors and medical staff aren’t perfect, but we don’t go to work hoping people will die because it means more money.

Some do. Not all. Not most. Who has said that all do?

JayJay · 2020-11-02T18:06:54.455Z

EternalVigilance:

Woodward sat on that interview for six months? Is that correct?

Ah so it’s his fault.

Got it.

Paul_Thomson · 2020-11-02T18:08:15.142Z

SottoVoce:

I have never been asked to change a diagnosis or heard of anyone anywhere doing something similar to “get more money.” If they did, we’d all know about it in these hyper-aware times.

Not everyone gets their news from globalust controlled news sources. So, no, we wouldn’t all know about it

JayJay · 2020-11-02T18:08:19.812Z

GrandWazoo:

zantax:

And lets all pretend there aren’t tons of rabid democrats out their cheering for higher death counts, just like they did for Iraq, because they hope it will unseat an incumbent Republican. We see you.

Why is it so difficult for you guys to not believe that us on the left are pure evil. We don’t cheer death.
This is a horrible situation we are all in. This is not political. And I condemn anyone who tries to make it so. Kudos to those doing their best to help. And shame on those who are not.

40 years of being told that those that believe differently from you aren’t just wrong but evil is very hard to combat.

JayJay · 2020-11-02T18:09:50.757Z

zantax:

And lets all pretend there aren’t tons of rabid democrats out their cheering for higher death counts, just like they did for Iraq, because they hope it will unseat an incumbent Republican. We see you.

But we know Libs are evil.

Conservatives are supposed to be much better…why would one wish to benchmark oneself against evil people and say “look they’re doing it too”?

mollyBrown · 2020-11-02T18:17:03.795Z

JayJay:

EternalVigilance:

Woodward sat on that interview for six months? Is that correct?

Ah so it’s his fault.

Got it.

It’s an interesting and predictable spin. Blame the book author for the words and not the person who said them.

WuWei · 2020-11-02T18:19:41.375Z

JayJay:

40 years of being told that those that believe differently from you aren’t just wrong but evil is very hard to combat.

Yes, yes it is. I ignore it usually.

JayJay · 2020-11-02T18:20:00.699Z

WuWei:

JayJay:

40 years of being told that those that believe differently from you aren’t just wrong but evil is very hard to combat.

Yes, yes it is. I ignore it usually.

Kudos.

Others don’t.

WuWei · 2020-11-02T18:22:37.121Z

JayJay:

WuWei:

JayJay:

40 years of being told that those that believe differently from you aren’t just wrong but evil is very hard to combat.

Yes, yes it is. I ignore it usually.

Kudos.

Others don’t.

Racist, bigot, homophobe, didn’t build that, kill kids, Bible clinger…

After a while it just turns into background libish.

Optrader · 2020-11-02T18:23:39.319Z

Konssurvative1:

I saw this earlier today. It so angered me I had to get out of the house. So I went and voted… Pulled a D lever for the first time. Things like this and what Kushner allegedly did are why I voted for Biden.

So you’ll vote Democrat for what Kushner ALLEGEDLY did, but ignore what Hunter Biden ALLEGEDLY did that also profited his dad?? Interesting…

Paul_Thomson · 2020-11-02T18:29:03.700Z

toreyj01:

"New Yorkers are going to suffer and that’s their problem”

He vast majority of NYers voted for liberal rule and have rejected Trump’s presidency. Trump let them have what they voted for as a state in dealing with the outbreak, but was ready to help, if asked. That is decentralisation of power away from federal government. If their preferred management failed them, they can take responsibility for their poor choice of politicians and vote them out next time.

Red states aren’t complaining about being given more responsibility. It’s the states that made poor decisions who are trying to blame someone else for their unpopular outcomes.

JayJay · 2020-11-02T18:31:01.427Z

Optrader:

Konssurvative1:

I saw this earlier today. It so angered me I had to get out of the house. So I went and voted… Pulled a D lever for the first time. Things like this and what Kushner allegedly did are why I voted for Biden.

So you’ll vote Democrat for what Kushner ALLEGEDLY did, but ignore what Hunter Biden ALLEGEDLY did that also profited his dad?? Interesting…

Provide an authentic tape of Hunter Biden admitting what you think he did (we have Jred on tape saying what he did) and then you might have an apples to apples comparison.

EternalVigilance · 2020-11-02T18:35:56.712Z

mollyBrown:

It’s an interesting and predictable spin. Blame the book author for the words and not the person who said them.

Actually not my intent to imply that, but it could be argued that if these tapes had hit in the earlier days of the pandemic it could have been a much more explosive scandal - perhaps changing the course of things. As it stands now, people are already entrenched and it’s probably not going sway anybody one way or another.

Optrader · 2020-11-02T19:07:59.264Z

JayJay:

Optrader:

Konssurvative1:

I saw this earlier today. It so angered me I had to get out of the house. So I went and voted… Pulled a D lever for the first time. Things like this and what Kushner allegedly did are why I voted for Biden.

So you’ll vote Democrat for what Kushner ALLEGEDLY did, but ignore what Hunter Biden ALLEGEDLY did that also profited his dad?? Interesting…

Provide an authentic tape of Hunter Biden admitting what you think he did (we have Jred on tape saying what he did) and then you might have an apples to apples comparison.

Horse Hockey. The evidence against Hunter Biden is overwhelming even without the lap top. The evidence against his dad IS on tape and it hasn’t mattered to his supporters at all. I won’t even bother asking any questions about the Bidens because as with the Clintons crimes, it’s being ignored.

DOLOOP · 2020-11-02T19:09:01.802Z

SeaManatee:

His personality guides his policy, which is why people try so hard to separate them.

Yup.

Now, just imagine if you can. Donald Trump sitting in the Oval Office, the next time America faces a crisis. Imagine him being in charge when your jobs and savings are at stake. Is this who you want to lead us in an emergency? Someone thin skinned and quick to anger who’d likely be on Twitter attacking reporters or bringing the whole regulatory system down on his critics when he should be focused on fixing what’s wrong? Would he even know what to do?

JayJay · 2020-11-02T19:18:41.447Z

Optrader:

JayJay:

Optrader:

Konssurvative1:

I saw this earlier today. It so angered me I had to get out of the house. So I went and voted… Pulled a D lever for the first time. Things like this and what Kushner allegedly did are why I voted for Biden.

So you’ll vote Democrat for what Kushner ALLEGEDLY did, but ignore what Hunter Biden ALLEGEDLY did that also profited his dad?? Interesting…

Provide an authentic tape of Hunter Biden admitting what you think he did (we have Jred on tape saying what he did) and then you might have an apples to apples comparison.

Horse Hockey. The evidence against Hunter Biden is overwhelming even without the lap top. The evidence against his dad IS on tape and it hasn’t mattered to his supporters at all. I won’t even bother asking any questions about the Bidens because as with the Clintons crimes, it’s being ignored.

The only “overwhelming evidence” is that it was likely made up and had its source in this:

NBC News

How a fake persona laid the groundwork for a Hunter Biden conspiracy deluge

A 64-page document that was later disseminated by close associates of President Donald Trump appears to be the work of a fake "intelligence firm."

Even FoxNews’ news division wasn’t having any of it.

You are free, of course, to believe Jared Kushner was lying to Bob Woodward.

DOLOOP · 2020-11-02T19:26:33.354Z

JayJay:

Optrader:

JayJay:

Optrader:

Konssurvative1:

I saw this earlier today. It so angered me I had to get out of the house. So I went and voted… Pulled a D lever for the first time. Things like this and what Kushner allegedly did are why I voted for Biden.

So you’ll vote Democrat for what Kushner ALLEGEDLY did, but ignore what Hunter Biden ALLEGEDLY did that also profited his dad?? Interesting…

Provide an authentic tape of Hunter Biden admitting what you think he did (we have Jred on tape saying what he did) and then you might have an apples to apples comparison.

Horse Hockey. The evidence against Hunter Biden is overwhelming even without the lap top. The evidence against his dad IS on tape and it hasn’t mattered to his supporters at all. I won’t even bother asking any questions about the Bidens because as with the Clintons crimes, it’s being ignored.

The only “overwhelming evidence” is that it was likely made up and had its source in this:

How a fake persona laid the groundwork for a Hunter Biden conspiracy deluge

Even FoxNews’ news division wasn’t having any of it.

You are free, of course, to believe Jared Kushner was lying to Bob Woodward.

Trumpists got fooled by a computer program.

These idiots shouldn’t be allowed near the throttle of a Briggs and Stratton minibike let alone the levers of government.

Optrader · 2020-11-02T20:05:38.494Z

JayJay:

Optrader:

JayJay:

Optrader:

Konssurvative1:

I saw this earlier today. It so angered me I had to get out of the house. So I went and voted… Pulled a D lever for the first time. Things like this and what Kushner allegedly did are why I voted for Biden.

So you’ll vote Democrat for what Kushner ALLEGEDLY did, but ignore what Hunter Biden ALLEGEDLY did that also profited his dad?? Interesting…

Provide an authentic tape of Hunter Biden admitting what you think he did (we have Jred on tape saying what he did) and then you might have an apples to apples comparison.

Horse Hockey. The evidence against Hunter Biden is overwhelming even without the lap top. The evidence against his dad IS on tape and it hasn’t mattered to his supporters at all. I won’t even bother asking any questions about the Bidens because as with the Clintons crimes, it’s being ignored.

The only “overwhelming evidence” is that it was likely made up and had its source in this:

How a fake persona laid the groundwork for a Hunter Biden conspiracy deluge

Even FoxNews’ news division wasn’t having any of it.

You are free, of course, to believe Jared Kushner was lying to Bob Woodward.

After tomorrow, it won’t matter, unless Biden wins. Then maybe the Republicans will spend the next three years in endless investigations leading up to a false impeachment of Biden in 2023. Of course, that assumes Harris won’t carry out a coup, I mean invoke the 25th amendment and have him removed because he’s senile.

No, when Trump wins we’ll let Joe skate away scott free like we did with Hillary and just be glad to watch Lib heads explode for 4 more years…

Konssurvative1 · 2020-11-02T22:05:10.842Z

I am not voting for Hunter Biden…And as of right now…Hunter Biden does not have the position of advisor to the PResident…So Forgive me if I don’t follow your logic…the President’s son in law has made some pretty bone headed decisions in my opinion. I could care less what Hunter Biden did at this point. If at some time he becomes and advisor to his father with security clearance, I might give pause in voting for Joe Biden a second time.
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