8029

I knooooooow…rite? How about that Russian collusion thingy…same thing? How about the Mueller thingy…same thing? How about those impeachment thingys…same thing? How long does one have to swallow bull feces that’s represented as truth before you understand that those doing the feeding…are liars?

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8030

Don’t worry my man. My world is superb because I’m living the American Dream. It’s just that I want this success for all and “the chances my friend are fading in the wind”. My “feelings” are for those like yourself, that are blind to this truth and when your eyes finally open, it’ll be too late.

8031

…who had the total authority to declassify and Biden did NOT…

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8032

Very well stated!!

:sunglasses:

8033

POTUS#45 isn’t being charged with taking the documents. Just like Biden and Pence. As there was no evidence of intent in any of the three cases that they were purposely taken in detriment to the United States as opposed to packing errors by their respective staff.

However the difference is that Biden and Pence, once it was known documents existed, contacted the appropriate government agency and the documents were immediately turned over the the proper United States government officer. They then proceeded to cooperate with the returning any other documents that might be found including voluntary searches by the FBI.

To contrast, FPOTUS#45 ** KNEW ** he was in illegal (as in unlawful, which is not the same as criminal) possession of government documents once he left office. He knew, because there is NARA correspondence in the record showing this had been explained to him. He stonewalled the NARA for 16 months, returning only a small portion of U.S. Government documents. The NARA found in this initial cache some classified documents and contacted the FBI for (a) evaluation, and (b) assistance in retrieving other documents. FPOTUS#45 then stonewalled the NARA/FBI for a couple of more months, but the FBI doesn’t play when it comes to national defense information. They then obtained a federal subpoena for the return of the documents.*** Upon a “search” FPOTUS#45 (through his attorneys) put together some classified documents for surrender the volume of which was one redial folder. During this time he obstructed justice by coordinating with staff to have boxes removed to areas the attorney’s were not allowed to “search” so he could retrain national defense documents. Then he cause his own attorney’s to lie to the NARA/FBI Officers stating that all subpoenaed documents were returned with it was known they were not and said attorney’s DENIED the NARA/FBI officers collecting the redwall from looking in any of the boxes that were present in the storeroom (where the boxes had been after being stored on a public state and in a public bathroom for some period of time). The NARA/FBI requested an additional lock on the storeroom, which the attorney’s complied with (which was nice of them), while the NARA/FBI gathered evidence of probable cause and obtained a Federal Search warrant to finally be able to take US Government property back.

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*** An interesting point is the FPOTUS#45 never challenged the subpoena and accepted it as lawful. If some of the “defenses” he’s attempted to use in public and on social media were believe to be true, he should have/could have challenged the subpoena based on:

  • They were his personal property and therefore not subject to being returned,
  • He secretly declassified the documents prior to leaving office, therefore there were no classified documents in his possession,
  • That (as he claims) the Presidential Records Act of 1978 says he can make any record “personal” and therefore not subject to being turned over to the government (it doesn’t, but that is is claim).

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8034

They all could be, as it is illegal to knowingly keep classified documents. Why would they charge for peripheral crimes when the center of the issue of keeping classified documents is ignored?
The obvious reason is that it would be impossible to prosecute for this and ignore Biden’s far worse infraction.
Proof enough of the political nature of this prosecution.
So they are charging Trump for playing around with the FBI. Fine. Due to the political nature of this whole incident then find him guilty and fine him $10k.
Or better yet, pardon the whole thing after the election.

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8035

…had no authority to declassify them but Trump did…period.

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8036

But he didn’t. He knew that he didn’t. His attorneys aren’t saying that he did

Only the all seeing all knowing internet lawyers are saying it. Exclamation point.

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8037

So the POTUS does not have the authority to declassify classified documents?

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8038

So nobody is making the argument that he did. Except for you guys be sure the internet told you so.

So that.

8039

Does the POTUS have the authority or not? Yes…or no?

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8040

Argue that it’s a political prosecution. Argue that that it’s revenge. Don’t make aeguments that make no sense.

It doesn’t matter with regards to the case because he has never said that he declassified them in a court and has been recorded as saying that he never declassified them to begin with

8041

Yes.

Ex-Presidents do not.

FPOTUS#45 is free to make the claim in court and then provide evidence of such ever happening. But during earlier court proceedings involving the Special Master he refused to make the claim to the court.

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8042

Dude…you couldn’t even answer a yes or no question. Push your feeeelings aside.

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8043

…and there’s the total argument. Eenie, meenie, mynie…moe…did he declassify them yes or no?

Biden on the other hand…NEVER had the authority and criminally took them for decades but yet…no prosecution for an actual criminal act.

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8044

You didn’t ask it out of context. It is irrelevant to the case whether he can.

8045

He has never said he declassified them in a court of law

We have entered the la la la la can’t hear you phase of the debate.

8046

The two-tier system of justice currently prevalent is on display for the whole country to see. It exemplifies how weaponized our government agencies have become and it’s moving many voters to the right. Keep it up and show the nation just how far gone the left actually is.

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8047

Recent support for Trump in the polls show that most Americans recognize this as a political prosecution no matter what those who support it say.
I believe Trumps actions surrounding the 2020 election would have served as a major drawback for 2024 if handled as part of the political process. The introduction of political prosecutions to our justice system has eclipsed any significance of refusing to accept the outcome of an election.
One of these is much more anti democratic than the other.

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8048

There ya go. Play the classics and ignore the prosecutions of democrats.