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Only in a comparative sense.

When wages for chamber maids rise 25% fewer people will invest in AirBnBs, ma and Pa hotels will start allowing weekly-only rentals.

People will switch to housekeepers who come once a week instead of twice, more farmers will use mechanization, teenagers will once again get jobs mowing lawns and NY will have two bodegas per block instead of three bodegas per block.

Not exactly a crushing blow to the economy.
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Hmm which one of us is arguing for higher wages for low-income workers?

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Ok. We shall soon see if most people are willing to enforce our laws even if it costs.
Although we may argue about those who are able to provide productive work at least at the minimum wage, we can surely agree those who are not vetted and unable to perform useful tasks can be removed at a cost benefit.

The great Rush Limbaugh once read from a study that said wages and salaries (including wages and salaries of CEOs, truckers, warehouse workers and fruit pickers) comprise only 15% of the cost of food in the US.

(Most of the cost is in the cost of the farm the cost of the warehouse and the cost of the supermarket with a sprawling parking lot.) Raise the income of every fruit picker, every trucker and every CEO in the food industry by 20% and ya get a 3% increase in food prices . . . . NOT going to crush the economy.

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What if the laborers don’t exist anymore because they have been moved away?

What happens then?

One can raise wages… but if the people aren’t there to fill the jobs what happens next?

Or then you can legally allow in vetted workers in that area through new or existing laws.

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People hire fewer nannies and take care of their own kids.
People clean their own houses.
Teenagers start cutting their families’ own lawns.
The ice cream truck drives down your street twice a day instead of three times a day.
You have to wait a whole 10 minutes to get a taxi
5% of all NYC cell phone stores go out of business etc.

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Or… as I have seen from the labor shortage in Maine… businesses close.

Because the labor to keep them running doesn’t exist in the area.

I really don’t think that you are thinking through the real world effects of removing millions of laborers from the economy.

I think you are not seeing that the demand for (so much) labor exists only becasue the price is artificialy low.

A typical supermarket has 31,704 products
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My local Walmart has 672 kinds of coffee available now. Incl 38oz Maxwell House Original, 38oz of Mazwell House Columbian 38oz of Maeell house Decaf, 10oz Maxwell House Original, 10oz Mazwell House Columbian, 10 oz Mazwell House Decaf, ditto with Folgers, and dozens of other brands.

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If Walmart suddenly were faced with an unskilled labor shortage what would happen? (pick one)

a. They would raise wages and trim their labor needs by offering only 500 coffee choices
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b. The economy would implode. Grass would never be cut. Kids would raise themselves and an apocalypse would begin.

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There is already a labor shortage for farm workers that numbers in the millions of people.

When you remove 20 million laborers from the labor pool… what do you think will happen?

Dude, I already said I’d take the job, you don’t have to sell me on it!!

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Asked and answered
but here it is again

I beleive that when we restore a free market to low-end labor
the wages received by American workers will rise substanitally.

  • The ice cream truck will come down your street twice a day instead of three times (because some ice cream truck driver is now driving a farm tractor)
  • Teenagers will cut their grass in their neighborhoods (because the lawn care worker is picking strawberries)
  • Manhattanites will have their apartments cleaned only twice a week instead of three times
  • Prices in Walmart will rise less than 3% (because some of the Wlamart workers have now been bid-away to do other work.)
  • You’ll have to wait 10 mins instead of 8 mins for an Uber.

Undocumented workers can’t legally work. You wanna put a srop to that, go after the employers

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Sure, do that too.

Of course, the Biden andminstation keeps making it legal to hire the known lying law-breaking con artists who clam they need asylum form every single country between Texas and Venezuela so,
going after the Mahattanites who hire nannies and housekeeprs and lawn care companies etc. won’t accomplish much.

Fact is if they made it to Mexico and claim they need asylum from Mexico then either
1.) They are obvious liars and lawbreakers and should be locked up pending deportation
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2.) The Mexican government is an absolutley ghoulish human rights violator. We should immediately stop 100% of all Mexican trade, throw out their ambassdador, seize their assets etc. and demand they follow UN and other human rights conventons.

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I have already answered. Your partisan crap is getting old. Now tell us all what makes you hate Christians?

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LINK:

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Honest question

Are refugees and asylum seekers considered “undocumented”?

I believe the answer is “yes”
but I’ve been thinking in the context of this discussion.

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A real refugee or asylum seeker is one who has received a referral to the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program (USRAP)

How can I hate Christians? I am one - Catholic.

But no you didn’t answer it. However your silence tells us all we need to know.

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Or by removing millions of people from the labor pool in an already tight labor market where there is a severe farm worker shortage… even more farms will go out of business