So what if they fly from South Africa to Sao Paulo South America then from Sao Paulo to the U.S.
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Do we know there are even cases of Omicron in New York?
I’m OK with Biden doing this. We didn’t act fast enough in 2020, we can always move backward if it’s nothing.
WuWei
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It would be too late then.
not for what this order supposedly does. certainly did not need to declare a state of emergency to do it.
Samm
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Seems I made an impression on you. 
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WuWei
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Delaying elective surgery to free up hospital space?
Samm
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Yeah … Clearly … It was merely a coincidence that he said it the day after the travel restrictions. 
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Samm
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Ever hear the expression regarding closing the barn doors before the cows run away? This is sort of like that only we are trying to keep the cows out.
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premature. they don’t even know if they’ll need to. it ain’t gonna go from 0 cases to overwhelming in a couple days, or even weeks.
Samm
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Actually, that’s exactly what could happen. Particularly if the vaccines are not effective against it.
Wow, unions are going to love that. I wonder if governor Murphy here in NJ will follow suit?
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;no.not really. omi has been in sa over a week. its not overwhelming them yet. places like ny need to be prepared, not panic prematurely. right now, what ny needs to worry about is the current delta surge, which, in an odd way, may prevent omi from getting a foothold if it does show up there
Samm
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Three words. Exponential growth rate.
maybe. look at their timeline. two peaks a year. one starting in may peaking in jul, the other starting in nov peaking in jan. if it spreads faster it will also peak earlier.
Samm
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Yes, exactly. More transmittable, it will peak quicker. But nobody can predict the magnitude of the peak, particularly if the vaccine is not effective against it.
i see no reason to believe it will be any different, once it reaches somewhere near 30-35% infection rate, there won’t be enough vectors to support it. same as the others.
Samm
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But it reportedly is more easily transmittable than Delta which was more easily transmittable than Alpha. We also do not know if either vaccine immunity or natural immunity will be effective in slowing transmission or reducing the number of infections. We also do not know the mortality rate from this variant.
we don’t know what we don’t know. and we know what we do. it may be that this is worse, it may be that it takes the same route most do and as it becomes more virulent becomes less dangerous. that would be the norm. of course, this ain’t normal because it was made, not nature doing its thing. we’ll know in the next few days. we can wait for the science here. right now, there’s a delta surge in ny, which if this does turn out to be more dangerous, may save them.
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