The New American "Right"

[Guilds]

@PAmoderate37

No I am not. I am good with all that that JFK brought up, no where was he offering free everything for votes. I believe in social safety nets but also believe everyone should have some kind of skin in the game.

Here is a bit of info on FDR’s vision. It clearly talks about building on the principles of Social Security.

We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. “Necessitous men are not free men.”[8] People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.

In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.

Among these are:

• The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
• The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
• The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
• The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
• The right of every family to a decent home;
• The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
• The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
• The right to a good education.

[PAmoderate37]

@Guilds

Here is a bit of info on FDR’s vision. It clearly talks about building on the principles of Social Security.

Yes, and the first one listed is a right to a job. I am good with all of that revolving around a job. Able body folks should not be just sitting at home collecting. People receiving those types of benefits should still be working. IF it takes the government to create jobs for them then so be it.

[Guilds]

@PAmoderate37

Yes, and the first one listed is a right to a job. I am good with all of that revolving around a job. Able body folks should not be just sitting at home collecting. People receiving those types of benefits should still be working. IF it takes the government to create jobs for them then so be it.

The vast majority of folks would prefer to work. There will always be some that will milk the system.

Several on the list , is pretty much in line with AOC…and Sanders.

• The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

Living wage, and guaranteed vacation.

• The [right of every family to a decent home]
  Housing assistance

(Right to housing - Wikipedia);

• The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

Speaks for itself.

• The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
  Retirement security

• The right to a good education.

Free college/trade schools

Looks pretty liberal to me…FDR and JFK supported these ideals.

[Borgia_dude]

@tnt

@Smyrna

Conservative isn’t politics, it’s a methodology in approaching one’s life. It’s more than hard work my friend. It’s personal sacrifice, telling yourself no and placing the needs and sometimes wants ahead of your own. It’s always saving for that “rainy day” and being prepared that if everything goes wrong, those you love and are providing for will still be ok.

I know dozens of liberal Americans who subscribe to this ethos you describe. It has nothing to do with politics.

Conservative and liberal follow that ethos. It isn’t owned by either side.

[biggestal99]

The writer of this article missed one group of the new right.

The white supremacists.

A vocal minority of the new right.

Allan

[conan]

FDR was not a liberal.

[Guilds]

@conan

FDR was not a liberal.

On Earth2, where you reside, that may be true.

[JayJay]

@Guilds

@conan

FDR was not a liberal.

On Earth2, where you reside, that may be true.

There’s a reason today’s right uses “Lib” instead of liberal.

They think of them as different creatures.

In some ways, they are.

In others…not.

There’s been hints of progressivism since the country’s founding.

But today’s right can’t claim the mantle of the Founders unless they believe otherwise.

[conan]

In your authoritarian world he may be…but not reality.

[WuWei]

@Guilds

and independence

Amazing

[biggestal99]

@conan

FDR was not a liberal.

He most certainly was.

Maybe not as much as his esteemed wife, but FDR was a tried and true lib.

Allan

[Jezcoe]

@biggestal99

The writer of this article missed one group of the new right.

The white supremacists.

A vocal minority of the new right.

Allan

I think that they are lumped into the “fringe”

[WuWei]

@Guilds

The vast majority of folks would prefer to work.

Well, that’s not true.

[Guilds]

@JayJay

There’s a reason today’s right uses “Lib” instead of liberal.

They think of them as different creatures.

In some ways, they are.

In others…not.

There’s been hints of progressivism since the country’s founding.

Classic liberalism differs from modern liberalism.

There are many similarities, but the economic aspects have changed due to how global economies work…much different today, than in the 18th century.

[Hexenbiest]

Your right about that, some strange polls during the pandemic 30+% wanted to stay inside forever and never have things go back to normal. This is what happens imho when one lives their lives online.

[biggestal99]

@WuWei

Well, that’s not true.

What’s not true. That most people don’t want to work.

I have a huge work ethic and will work until I die or am physically unable to.

Unfortunately most citizens have lost the great American work ethic.

Allan

[Guilds]

@WuWei

Well, that’s not true.

Sure it is…
I understand cons believe humans basically suck, and will try to scam their way to get ahead.

Reality is, most humans are not sociopaths.

[WuWei]

@Guilds

@WuWei

Well, that’s not true.

Sure it is…
I understand cons believe humans basically suck, and will try to scam their way to get ahead.

Reality is, most humans are not sociopaths.

Nobody would rather work than do what they want to do.

[biggestal99]

@Guilds

There is much more to JFK, than that one sentence.

“If by a “Liberal” they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a “Liberal”, then I’m proud to say I’m a "Liberal.” JFK

That fits in quite well with today’s liberals.

Exactly. jFK was my kinda guy.

Allan

[Guilds]

@conan

In your authoritarian world he may be…but not reality.

Well, you believe taxation and seat belt laws is authoritarian…so your opinion holds very little value, IMO.