The "national emergency" in the context of Constitutional Governance

Keep this nonsense in your birthright thread, honestly.

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I’m sure TheDoctorIsIn will listen to you who brought up birth right citizenship.

JWK

I think “conservatives” was also a word unknown to the founders.

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What are we? Ten years old?

“But…but…HE started it!”

:roll_eyes:

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My problem with what is going on today is that Congress is having a hissy fit and not doing what the American people want them to do. They are only listening to themselves and not us. I believe we should go back to a more constitutionalist society because Obama really stretched the power of the Presidency. I don’t think they should just be allowed to not build the wall after years of wanting it and giving $$ to Obama but refuse to give it to President Trump. The only way to change that is throw all of them out of Congress, but in the mean time, we will be overrun by illegals and in turn may end up losing. There is people in Chicago, other countries and Soros who is trying to tear our country apart. So that leaves the question “What and how do we take care of this constitutionally before we suffer beyond repair?”

How do you know that Congress not doing what the American people want them to do?? Congress is directly elected by the American people.

And? You wrote that to say what?

:roll_eyes:

How do we know Congress is not doing what the American People want? By reading our freaken Constitution! That’s how!

Are you suggesting that allowing our borders to be invaded by tens of thousands of Central America’s poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, disease carrying and criminals each month is promoting the general welfare of the United States? Have the people of the United States not specifically demanded that our federal government " . . . provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions?"

JWK

Absolute governments, (tho’ the disgrace of human nature) have this advantage with them, they are simple; if the people suffer, they know the head from which their suffering springs ; know likewise the remedy……
___ Thomas Paine’s Common Sense.

The Republicans recently had controlled of both the House and the Senate along with the White House. During that time, the GOP controlled Congress could have passed a bill to change the asylum laws in order to reduce the number of individuals coming from Central America. But they never did that.

Drawing a line in the sand over funding the wall seems a little lame. First, Congress did enact a law authorizing a wall, we are only talking about funding. If funding can legally be taken from other authorized sources, then why isn’t that ok? If Congress doesn’t want Trump to do that, then they can pass a law revoking the building of the wall…or specifically prohibiting the use of other funding.
Second, and most of all, that is a weak front to fight on. If Congress wanted to defend their authority, then they should have fought when Obama unilaterally changed immigration laws with his DACA.

Let the Judges decide.

Congress ended up challenging Obama on DAPA (Not to be confused with DACA), and as a result of that, DAPA was never implemented since it was blocked by the courts. Link

Trump’s National emergency declaration is unconstitutional mainly because the National Emergencies Act of 1976 is itself likely unconstitutional. Link

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Chris,

This has nothing to do with political party crap. Our nation is under siege, tens of thousands of Central America’s poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, disease carrying and criminals are overrunning our border each month. And our federal government is not protecting our nation from this ongoing invasion.

JWK

It was May of 2019 when an ongoing invasion of America’s borders swelled to tens of thousands a month, reasonable force was not used to defend the borders of the United States, and America’s domestic enemies ___ socialists, communists, and Fifth Column activists ___ continued with their obstruction against securing America’s borders which led to the downfall of a once free nation.

I’ll never understand why some, do not recognize our national emergency at the border and portray an attitude like there’s nothing wrong. This is a serious problem my friend that must be immediately addressed and fixed. I’m glad that Trump has his passions and that securing the border is one of them. Democrats will lose the next election over their stance on illegal immigration. If they had their way, “we” would be a sanctuary country.

It’s such an emergency that the president who said it was an emergency is spending his time on Twitter making up names for people he doesn’t like.

Of course we know that he’s a huge fraud and a liar and a financial disaster. So he’s going to just continue to use this wall as a wedge issue to get votes. That’s all it has ever been, besides something to put his name on. It’s about Trump, his ego and his legacy. Not about keeping illegals out. He just knows how to sucker people and a ton are not savvy enough to see what he’s doing.

One has nothing to do with the other. I also do not care about the motivation. What I care about are the results. Comprende?

And that is what Donald Trump is counting on. People not caring about his motivation but what they think will work even if it doesn’t.

That is why Donald Trump is such a master at suckering people.

A more accurate synopsis of this whole matter is that you and libs in general…are sore losers that have evolved into infantile Trump haters on steroids…also known as TDS.

At what point do we say Trump supporters are deranged about his intentions and capabilities? This wall thing is a farce to any objective observer. He has zero interest in actually building one. It is utterly amazing this is not understood by this point of his shtick.

I wouldn’t be getting too excited about the “national emergency” just yet… There is a hearing in the Northern District of California next week on the preliminary injunction requested in the California (and other states) lawsuit filed the day the “national emergency” was declared…

You can say it now if you’d like? The wall is what will or will not get Trump reelected because both parties have made it historically clear that all they will do is talk.