And vice versa

A simple fact that Democrats love to ignore is that most of the gun violence is committed by inner city gangs in Democrat run cities that already have strict gun laws. When you remove Chicago, Baltimore, St. Louis, D.C., and Philadelphia from the mix you get an entirely different picture. Democrats also know that gang members won’t obey new gun laws. It’s not about guns, it’s about control over citizens.

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Think of the children!

And that is why the revolutionary/authoritarian Democrat Leadership crowd want to disarm the American people, they learned how the revolutionary mob in Cuba benefitted, and now controls the people with an iron fist, and lives large off the wealth created by the people.

JWK


Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin, November 11, 1755

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:rofl:

Florida Man triggered the Dems

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Let’s be honest here. The gun control crowd is intent on ignoring the Tenth Amendment, the Second Amendment and Article V, which requires 3/4 approval by the States and people therein to alter the rule of law. Ignoring the above mentioned provisions amounts to tyranny. And we are supposed to surrender our “Arms” and trust this crowd?

Our Founders intended ordinary citizens to keep and bear arms [a contemporary fire arm used by foot soldiers] so they would be ready and able to defend themselves against a despotic government if necessary. The AR-15-semi is a civilian version of the United States military’s M16 and ought to be kept by ordinary citizens to defend against a tyrannical government if necessary. Forewarned is forearmed.

JWK

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And that is why control freaks detest federalism . . . it is an obstacle to controlling and subjugating the people completely.

Incorrect.

The first gun restrictions were done at the state level, particularly in the south, to control when and where you can carry an arm. These were well before the emancipation proclamation.

Now I do agree that after EP, freed black people were restricted. But that was initially due to not being a citizen under the constitution.

Or… and hear me out… those slaveholding men could have just ended slavery with the swipe of the pen. Slavery would have existed with, or without, a constitution.

Italians in NY.

Gun “control” has always been racist and/or classist.

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No, they couldn’t.

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Three states with strict violations of the 2nd Amendment

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It’s impossible to have a discussion with someone like yourself that isn’t educated on the time period or what transpired. Many of those evil “white men” you are talking about desperately wanted to end slavery at the time but that would have been a deal breaker for independence and the Constitution. It took time and a civil war to accomplish but in around 70 years this country ended a practice that had been institutionalized for thousands of years. America didn’t invent slavery, it ended it.

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How many of them freed their slaves immediately after signing?

The answer is, zero.

In case you forgot, several hundred thousand “evil white men” fought a civil war to preserve the union the founders created and used the Constitution they wrote to free the slaves. If you wish to continue hating all of your life that is on you as no one can stop you. Hate just hurts you, no one else.

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Ever since 1619 Project they feel they can rewrite history anyway they want that benefits their extreme left-wing socialist views.

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And how many in the northern states had slaves and till when?

Now, for a little history lesson.

After the Revolutionary War and the people of America gained their independence from foreign domination [the real culprit of slavery on American soil] the people within a number of the states, exercising their newly found freedom, quickly moved to share the blessings of liberty to all by abolishing slavery! For example, the people of Vermont took this immediate action in its 1777 declaration of rights, which declared “no…person born in this country, or brought here over sea, ought to be holden by law to serve any person as a servant, slave, or apprentice”. Likewise, the Massachusetts constitution of 1780 declared that “all men are born free and equal” and was used by the court a few years after its adoption to legally forbid any person to be held as a slave. And, in 1787, the Northwest Ordinance stated “there shall be neither slavery nor involuntary servitude in the said Territory, otherwise than in the punishment of crimes whereof the party shall have been duly convicted.” By the year 1788 all the states north of Maryland , except New York and New Jersey, had legislated to extinguish slavery, and by 1804 the remaining two northern states [ N.Y. and N.J.] had put slavery to rest.

JWK

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And that is why control freaks detest federalism . . . it is an obstacle to controlling and subjugating the people completely.

And yet “some” are still slaves to government.

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Now the shift. If the slaveholding founders were so distraught over slavery, they could have release their own slaves… right? But they didn’t.

Man, why is taking about history considered me “hating all of my life”.

I have a great life. I can have a great life and talk about history.

It’s called resentment…it run extremely deep in “some African Americans”. :wink:

What did I say that was factually incorrect? I’ll wait