The kind of immigration reform I can support

Here is a little story, a true story mind you. A FB friend of mine who happens to be a combat vet from the Australian Navy wanted to immigrate here and marry a long lost but recently found love. Now, he suffers from some PTSD and has some other health issues BUT he is what we call 100% disabled and gets a full pension AND Healthcare from the Australian government. He went thru all of the steps, had his interviews with the embassy in Australia.

He was denied because of his medical issues, even though he wouldn’t be using any US govt assistance. Now, why was he denied entry yet we have known criminals, etc allowed to claim asylum, given a court date years in the future, and cut loose to do whatever in this country. I told him, “fly to Mexico and cross the border, you will be allowed in and cut loose”.

Does anyone else see a major issue here??

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Merit based immigration. I’ve always been very much in favor of it.

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does that include trumps in laws

allan

You guys are so brainwashed you dont even know that federal laws prohibit non citizens from getting most forms of federal assistance. That means no SSI, Medicaid, SNAP, TANF, and most other forms of aid. What they do get is access to emergency medical care, and other medical services. You guys need to learn the law and stop spreading false narratives.

Explainer: Immigrants and the Use of Public Benefi.. | migrationpolicy.org https://share.google/1xQcbkYolbXG6Un64

Other than refugees, noncitizens living in the United States face significant restrictions on access to public benefits funded by the federal government, including programs such as Medicaid, food stamps (the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program), and cash assistance programs such as Supplemental Security Income (SSI) and Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF). This is particularly the case for unauthorized immigrants, who except in very limited circumstances are barred from all federally funded public benefits. Immigrants on temporary visas, such as international students or seasonal workers, are likewise barred. Even most legal permanent residents (aka green-card holders) face a five-year waiting period before they can qualify for federal benefits. These restrictions are longstanding, in many cases dating back to a 1996 federal welfare reform law.

States and localities use an online service run by the Department of Homeland Security, known as SAVE, to determine whether applicants are eligible for benefits based on their immigration status.

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Restrictions on Access to Federal Public Benefits for Noncitizens

Noncitizens—a term that covers immigrants of all statuses except for naturalized citizens—are generally ineligible for federally funded programs including the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), Medicaid, Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF) if they are not refugees or in a refugee-like status and have not spent five years with a green card (or other such status). Children can access SNAP during their first five years on a green card, and in some states that have elected to supplement federal coverage with their own resources, children and pregnant women can access Medicaid and/or CHIP during their first five years as legal permanent residents.

The Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC), which provides nutrition assistance for young children and pregnant and postpartum women, is one of the few major public benefits programs for which immigrants are eligible regardless of immigration status.

Some other programs that provide additional support, such as Medicare and Social Security, have eligibility requirements that naturally restrict immigrant access compared to that of the U.S. born. For instance, Medicare requires 40 quarters of qualified work (about 10 years) to be eligible, in addition to legal status, and so is unavailable for some immigrants—even naturalized citizens—who arrive at older ages.

Unauthorized immigrants face the greatest restrictions on benefits use. Other than WIC, unauthorized immigrants are generally ineligible for federally funded supports except for emergency Medicaid, primary and preventive health care at Federally Qualified Health Centers (FQHCs), free/reduced school lunch, and short-term access to shelters and soup kitchens in emergency situations.

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What are we providing them?

I have done (distant past, in my 20s) a lot of work with refugees.

KNOW THIS:

  • A refugee–
    “The govenrment put my freinds and family in jail for their poltiical beliefs. If I stay, there is a good chance they will do it again.”

  • Nonrefugee –
    “The economy here sucks and there was a guy who lived six block away until the government puthim in jail for his poltical beliefs.”

  • Nonrefugee –
    “The economy here sucks and my religion is not allowed to build its own church. We have to pray in private.”

  • Nonrefugee –
    “The economy here sucks and suck even more ever since that hurricane.”

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Nonrefugees are a real and bona fide threat to legitimate refugees.
(and their inherent dishonesty means they are not helpful to America)

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In order to make that happen, what woul d mean hiring a lot more immigration judges and support staff to make that work. Seems like a good investment.

Recent economic data and projections for 2025 and 2026 indicate that immigrants are a primary driver of Minnesota’s workforce growth and tax revenue, though recent federal enforcement activities have caused significant localized economic damage. Between 2020 and 2024, immigration accounted for 94% of Minnesota’s net population growth. As of 2026, foreign-born workers support approximately one-third of Minnesota’s GDP and hold more than 1 in 10 jobs in the state

We’ve been through this, and you libs have been shows that they do.

Multiple times in multiple threads. I’m sure you’ve seen it, so I’ll take your reply as deliberate typical lib dishonesty.

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I am a Jew refugee from the Soviet Union. It was both economic and religious. Your interesting take is interesting

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Population growth isn’t automatically a good thing. GDP growth can be based on receiving federal funds. Nor is GDP growth automatically good. What is GDP growth per Capita doing?

And I am not talking about all immigrants in Minnesota. I am talking about those living predominantly on benefits.

Btw, let’s see that economic data and the report that interprets it.

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Well there are 8 bllion people in the world and probably 7 billion of them live in countries where the economy sucks
and they will say “some guy two cities away was arrested at a protest so that means I am a refugee.”

1.) I do not consider such people to be even remotely related to refugees.

2.) Most people, once they think about that, will concur with me.

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so what is a refugee?

1-- The actual guy who got arrested at the protest and maybe his immediate family, the peple who organized the protest etc. (IOW personally threatened with arrest)
plus
2-- People who livied in Cologne, Dresden etc. after it got bombed flatter than a pancake.

Calling in a false alarm for a fire or false robbery or faking refugee status etc are all equally despicable acts.

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An entire people actually worth the time and effort. Rare these days. :wink:

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With the time and effort?

Yes America’ experence with Russian Jews has been largely positive. But neither ‘worth the time and effort’ nor 'largely positive’ = refugee

Those are completely different terms

You’ll be hard pressed to find a more biased Jew than me. :wink:

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I’m just saying that an apple is not a potato chip.
You wanna invite more Russian Jews? I’m open to discussion.

You wanna call them “refugees?”
–I object!–
You are watering down the defintion of “refugee” so much that it now probably includes more than half the world’s population.

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I don’t care what you call them, just bring us more! :rofl:

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I did completely misunderstand your post. Go me

What would you like to call them instead?

Here is a video of a screen capture of a Hindu cop in India mistreating Muslims

As a reuslt of the video we can now correctly use the term “refugee” to describe

  • A) these people and their families
  • B) Every Muslim in that city
    or
  • C) Every Muslim in India
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