During the riot he tweeted “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!”

That was doing the opposite of quelling it.

He knew that his supporters had entered the Capitol by breaking through windows and he threw fuel on that fire.

There were tons of security failures that day.

I don’t think that anyone thought that there would be a riot to that scale and that the security response would completely collapse.

That has nothing to do with why those people were there and the lies that they believed from Trump.

Uh, huh…and it was all covered by the J6 committee pointing them out and charging those officers for their criminal conduct?

If they had done their job, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

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Wait? What? Criminal conduct? that is just a funhouse mirror world statement there.

If Trump hadn’t had lied to his supporters, gathered them there, told them to go to the Capitol, and when a riot broke out inflamed them even more meanwhile working behind the scenes with his allies in Congress to overturn the result of the election that he knew that he had lost through the use of fraudulent electors and Pariamentary ■■■■■■■ we wouldn’t be having this discussion either.

They ABANDONED THEIR POST and were NOT UNDER THREAT. They allowed people with helmets to break windows…while they were standing right there…ARMED and no one else was. The mere fact you don’t see this as being criminal is why there should have been two sides on the J committee.

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That isn’t criminal conduct.

Thanks for proving my point.

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What law did they break?

You can make the case that those officers in that instance had a deriliction of duty… but what they did was not criminal.

Criminal negligence

Criminal negligence refers to conduct in which a person ignores a known or obvious risk, or disregards the life and safety of others. Federal and state courts describe this behavior as a form of recklessness, where the person acts significantly differently than an ordinary person under similar circumstances.

Did they disregard the safety of all those behind those doors that they were there to protect? People are smashing the windows right there beside their heads. Did they stop them or did they purposefully allow it?

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That is just bonkers man.

You are upset that the Jan 6 comittee didn’t spend time on your pet theory as to why Ashlie Babbit got shot instead of the reason why the entire event happened in the first place.

I will admit… it is entertaining.

Is it? Ashli Babbit died as a direct result. What’s bonkers is anyone who can only see one side and is satisfied hearing only one side and then pretends it’s the whole truth. That’s bonkers.

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Yes… because they were mind readers and knew that she would be stupid enough to breach the barrier.

If they’re breaking the glass right beside their heads, what would be their logical intent? Why would Byrd be standing way off to the side and not front and center protecting those he was charged to protect? Why would the DC police be allowed to investigate themselves and completely exonerate this murderer who shot an unarmed female? This whole affair has been corruptly one-sided from the very beginning.

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I understand why you are hyperfocused on this incident.

It allows permission to ignore why it happened in the first place.

Its okay.

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It’s because I believe in “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth” and the J6 committee did not apply that. It was corrupt from the beginning and was intended for no other purpose except to keep Trump out of the WH forever. What’s sad though is that there are so many Brandonites like you, that no longer apply this foundational principle.

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Why would the Jan 6 committee be as hyper focused on Ashlie Babbit as you are? Their concern was about the actions of the President that day… not what happened with security.

If you really want to know why Ashlie Babbit was killed… go back to the reason why she was there in the first place and who’s fault is that?

I mentioned her this one time in our discussion but in your world…that’s “hyper focused”. :sunglasses: :tumbler_glass:

The fact that Pelosi didn’t do her job is one of the primary reasons there was a problem in the first place. Now let me ask again, did the J6 committee ask her why she failed to do her job or was it corruptly and purposefully left out?

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Oh come on… you are hyperfocused on Babbit to the point that whenever Jan 6 comes up you more often than not lead the conversation to being about her getting shot. It is a tool that you use in order to give yourself the permission to not have to criticize Trump for being the cause of the whole thing.

What job did Pelosi not do? Are we going to have to Groundhog Day the Capitol Police conversation again?

What job? Pelosi is not in charge of Capitol Security nor was she the reason that the riot happened.

Why did they riot? Answer that question. Why were they there? Who told them to be there on that date? Who lied to them and told them that the election was stolen? Who lied to them and told them that Mike Pence could hand him the Presidency and when Pence didn’t he told his followers that he didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done… all while his supporters were breaking windows to get into the Capitol?

Why did the whole event happen in the first place?

In the very beginning, I was puzzled why her murder was being ignored and still am to this day. I see though that this question is now picking up steam.

Pelosi shares responsibility for the security of the capitol building and has a Sergeant at arms at her discretion to implement this. She failed to do so making her complicit for J6. Was she questioned about her failures by the J6 committee?

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It happened because Biden rec’d 81 million votes…which is millions and millions more than anyone in the history of our country and yet, he hardly even campaigned. The dots don’t connect for many of us who questioned the integrity of the 2020 election.

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