Might want to look a little into limitations of free speech.
Quick refresher…
The government most certainly can do something when speech violates those boundaries.
Might want to look a little into limitations of free speech.
Quick refresher…
The government most certainly can do something when speech violates those boundaries.
They have the Presidency, House and Senate now. They don’t need no stinkin’ constitution.
Were does lying fit in the listed exceptions a-f?
I think he missed this part.
f. Commercial advertising: Speech advertising a product or service is constitutionally protected, but not as much as other speech. For instance, the government may ban misleading commercial advertising, but it generally can’t ban misleading political speech.
Didn’t realize the news media was “advertising a product or service.” Or providing “misleading political speech.” Fascinating.
AOC is all about stifling media. She did not draw the line at news.
And she’s wrong to suggest that, thats way over the line…See how easy it is to say your own side is wrong?
She’s not being deplatformed, losing committee assignments in the House, and no other Democrat is condemning these remarks. Their collective silence is an endorsement.
For anyone who wants to actually hear the bit Fox is talking about, here’s the “AOC live” queued up to the media literacy bit:
Is this idiot (AOC) stating this would only apply to certain areas of media or did she say “the media” which is rather all inclusive?
She was rather vague. Its pretty much just a research thing, not necessarily any actions. I posted the actual clip above.
For the record I oppose such censorship.
She’s not being deplatformed,
I guess deplatformed is the new boogeyman word we will be hearing repeated ad nauseam.
And as seeing it happened just yesterday, its kinda early to say what will happen to her isn’t it?
DougBH: SottoVoce:There are multiple threads bemoaning the idea that news media personalities inject opinion into their delivery.
https://community.hannity.com/t/objective-journalism-from-cnn-really
Now people are upset that someone says the news media shouldn’t be able to outright lie?
I don’t get it. Opinionated news media bad. Outright lying news media OK?
What government official would be appropriate to tell the media what is and isn’t a lie? Would you be ok with the Trump administration doing this, or is it ok now that the Democrats have control?
I would have to see what was proposed. No single government official should decide what is and isn’t a lie. No single political part should be able to either. AOC was nowhere near proposing either.
This is more of the same “reality is unknowable…truth and lies are not objectively determinible…so it’s just that someone’s opinion of reality will dominate” crap.
I don’t think you can fight disinformation via government action so I am against this idea.
I don’t (necessarily) mind the private sector driving media literacy initiatives or studying disinformation tactics.
But in the end people need to stop being so damn lazy. So long as they just give up and stop resisting the “believe first, and then seek out only confirming data” approach that is so natural to humans, disinformation will reign supreme., and be amplified at the speed of light.
And as seeing it happened just yesterday, its kinda early to say what will happen to her isn’t it?
Absolutely nothing will happen to her.
Well that’s only the single worst idea in the entire long sad history of ■■■■■■ ideas.
Media literacy.
As a stand-alone phrase it would be to use a discerning eye in one’s consumption of media in general.
I dare say there are plenty of posters right here that could stand to practice just that.
SottoVoce: RTchoke: fallenturtle: Snow96:Will CNN, MSNBC et al get training to know when accusing the President of being a russian agent is false?
Did they post news articles claiming Trump is an Russian agent, or did just their opinion and editorial pieces?
Is this idiot (AOC) stating this would only apply to certain areas of media or did she say “the media” which is rather all inclusive?
Obama tried to get a Truthiness Bureau going also.
What was old is new again.
From the article…
“I can say, there is absolutely a commission being discussed but it seems to be more investigatory, in style rather than truth and reconciliation, so I think that’s an interesting concept for us to explore, and I do think that several members of Congress, in some of my discussions, have brought up media literacy because that is a part of what happened here and we’re going to have to figure out how we rein in our media environment so that you can’t just spew disinformation and misinformation,” Ocasio-Cortez said.
“It’s one thing to have differentiating opinions but it’s another thing entirely to just say things that are false,” she continued. “So that’s something that we’re looking into.”
There it is. A committee being discussed to investigate. That’s it. That’s all.
They got there before. Now you have unhinged AOC leading the charge in a dem controlled political environment in which people cheer deplatforming and literally ruining peoples lives with their cancel culture and doxxing.
The frog has been in the pot for some time with this issue. The heat has just been turned up a couple notches.
Who’s life has been ruined?
Honestly, America would be better off without 24/7 political news channels.
Most honest and accurate thing I’ve seen in a long long time.
Thread title does not reflect article or information.
Sure it does.
This little part here by AOC
and we’re going to have to figure out how we rein in our media environment so that you can’t just spew disinformation, and misinformation,"
You will say what we tell you is the truth.
SottoVoce: DougBH: SottoVoce:There are multiple threads bemoaning the idea that news media personalities inject opinion into their delivery.
https://community.hannity.com/t/objective-journalism-from-cnn-really
Now people are upset that someone says the news media shouldn’t be able to outright lie?
I don’t get it. Opinionated news media bad. Outright lying news media OK?
What government official would be appropriate to tell the media what is and isn’t a lie? Would you be ok with the Trump administration doing this, or is it ok now that the Democrats have control?
I would have to see what was proposed. No single government official should decide what is and isn’t a lie. No single political part should be able to either. AOC was nowhere near proposing either.
This is more of the same “reality is unknowable…truth and lies are not objectively determinible…so it’s just that someone’s opinion of reality will dominate” crap.
I don’t think you can fight disinformation via government action so I am against this idea.
I don’t (necessarily) mind the private sector driving media literacy initiatives or studying disinformation tactics.
But in the end people need to stop being so damn lazy. So long as they just give up and stop resisting the “believe first, and then seek out only confirming data” approach that is so natural to humans, disinformation will reign supreme., and be amplified at the speed of light.
I don’t think anyone needs to do anything about what people say (to an extent). I do think there needs to be a fairly easy way to tell if you’re getting information that is based on some semblance of fact or is pure opinion/fiction. The true problem is that people confuse opinion and fact when there is no clear way to differentiate the two.
This happens on here all the time. It’s not a left or right issue. It’s universal. Some person or some organization gets a reader or viewer to pay attention and over time (or desire) people just assume they’re telling the truth.
So. What do you do? Same thing as in other professions. You license fact based news media and individuals and hold them to a higher standard. If they want to be licensed news media and advertise themselves as such, they have to be based in reality. They have to follow standards required by their license. If people decide they don’t want to get their information from a licensed news source, they still can. At least those looking for news not pure opinion (or fiction) can do so.
It’s by no means a new idea. In some ways, I believe that’s what AOC was referring to.
https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5613&context=flr
JayJay: SottoVoce: DougBH: SottoVoce:There are multiple threads bemoaning the idea that news media personalities inject opinion into their delivery.
https://community.hannity.com/t/objective-journalism-from-cnn-really
Now people are upset that someone says the news media shouldn’t be able to outright lie?
I don’t get it. Opinionated news media bad. Outright lying news media OK?
What government official would be appropriate to tell the media what is and isn’t a lie? Would you be ok with the Trump administration doing this, or is it ok now that the Democrats have control?
I would have to see what was proposed. No single government official should decide what is and isn’t a lie. No single political part should be able to either. AOC was nowhere near proposing either.
This is more of the same “reality is unknowable…truth and lies are not objectively determinible…so it’s just that someone’s opinion of reality will dominate” crap.
I don’t think you can fight disinformation via government action so I am against this idea.
I don’t (necessarily) mind the private sector driving media literacy initiatives or studying disinformation tactics.
But in the end people need to stop being so damn lazy. So long as they just give up and stop resisting the “believe first, and then seek out only confirming data” approach that is so natural to humans, disinformation will reign supreme., and be amplified at the speed of light.
I don’t think anyone needs to do anything about what people say (to an extent). I do think there needs to be a fairly easy way to tell if you’re getting information that is based on some semblance of fact or is pure opinion/fiction. The true problem is that people confuse opinion and fact when there is no clear way to differentiate the two.
This happens on here all the time. It’s not a left or right issue. It’s universal. Some person or some organization gets a reader or viewer to pay attention and over time (or desire) people just assume they’re telling the truth.
So. What do you do? Same thing as in other professions. You license fact based news media and individuals and hold them to a higher standard. If they want to be licensed news media and advertise themselves as such, they have to be based in reality. They have to follow standards required by their license. If people decide they don’t want to get their information from a licensed news source, they still can. At least those looking for news not pure opinion (or fiction) can do so.
It’s by no means a new idea. In some ways, I believe that’s what AOC was referring to.
https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5613&context=flr
Of course it’s not a new idea, despots and tyrants all over the world have been controlling what their citizens can read, see or listen to since the dawn of time.
AOC will have to change the term free press to reined in press?