The future of public schools

These two things… in the same post.

One income per family doing what?

That goal is achievable now. I’ve done it my whole life, including right now.

So one income doing what? “Barrista”? Waiting tables? Working the drive-thru? One income on those jobs has never been able to support a family. Ever.

“One income” is a huge range. Supporting a family takes a lot of effort. Some jobs can do it, others not. There’s also a lot of range in “happy.”

Seems to me a lot of people want two $100k vehicles in the driveway of a $900k house, two cruises a year, unlimited activities for 3.5 kids and Disneyland on one income.

That expectation is retarded.

People like me, who provide for a family on one income, don’t do that. Never have.

It requires self-discipline. Self-control. Planning. Not YOLO, keepin’ it real, and keepin’ up with the influencers.

Equity of outcomes is impossible imo. No child left behind and common core tries to create equity not of outcomes but of opportunity. That’s extremely difficult as well and idealistic but not impossible

You just revealed a lot about yourself with that question and what’s been revealed is sad.

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They made their choices they had the ability to choose. That is equity of opportunity. Of course not of outcomes.

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All of these things are the result of capitalism, when the government doesn’t interfere with stupid regulations.

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Equity is outcomes. That’s literally what the word means. It is a leveling of outcomes by providing unequal opportunities.

Equality of opportunity is not extremely difficult, it’s easy. We’ve had it for at least two generations.

The perception that we don’t comes from trying to measure opportunity with outcomes. When the desired outcome doesn’t happen, the default assumption is that the opportunity wasn’t there. Nonsense.

It’s just like the homeless situation. “They’re living on the street!”
“They need a home!”
Nobody asks them if they want a home, which requires work.

Opportunity requires effort on the part of the individual to achieve outcome. Results don’t fall out of the sky. Or a government program.

You need to stop trying that. It is an oxymoron.

I agree with all of that

No child left behind specifically references opportunity. It’s even in the name. When i say it’s difficult i am referencing the government trying to set up a system of equity of opportunity through curriculum (for example).

I am having trouble understanding why you think that including the fact that it is “in the word”.

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Redundant.

Yes, it’s impossible. Curriculum, for example, is a base. A lowest common denominator, in the case of public schools to produce NPC workers to pay taxes and support the GDP. That is most of the gen pop.

It is equality of opportunity.

If you want more, you have to do more. You have to bring more. Be more when you start.

How many public hs valedictorians are “failures” 10 or 20 years down the road?

We have been gaslit to believe that a smart kid and a stupid kid can go to the same school, take the same classes and they will end up with the same grades and life. When they don’t, it’s because the school failed the stupid or lazy kid.

No amount of education can turn a moron into a high intelligence individual. Turn a 70 into a 100.

And low intelligence people do not get high outcomes.

People, including kids, are not blank slates. They are the sum of their line to that point. Two stupid parents do not a genius make. Breeding matters. Bubba from Trailer 3 reproducing with Candy from Trailer 6 is not going to produce the doctor who will cure cancer. That’s a Hallmark movie, not science.

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Because I know the definition of “equity.”

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Maybe. But which one is it?

What? No it doesn’t and no it isn’t. Being left behind is an outcome, not an opportunity.

Why shouldn’t these jobs provide a decent living?

Gotcha ok thank you

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Again i agree with all that. Children should not be treated as identical cogs nor special snowflakes. Their abilities are highly dependent on various factors. Some need more help others need less help and that’s where parents often must step in to help. What i was trying to get across is that when we try to manufacture fairness in opportunity we fail. but i understand what you are saying. That what is being manufactured is equity of outcomes.

Because it’s unskilled labor.

Being left behind due to lack of opportunity. That’s the basis for it. Yes being left behind is an outcome. But it is an outcome of lack of opportunity. That’s the basis for it.

But again i see what you are saying.

Exactly, which is why most on the right support individualism versus collectivism, but I digress. The federal Department of Education will always repackage the same manufacturing of fairness with different names, with the same results. It’s time to return education to the states and completely remove the federal influence.

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