i dont see much distinction between the “state” controlling something and the acquisition of something but that might be because i am not against profit and free market enterprise
The temptation of buying votes with “free government cheese” is too tempting for dishonorable politicians to not promise free government cheese for all, excluding those who produce the cheese.
JWK
If we can make 51 percent of America’s population dependent upon the federal government for its subsistence, we can then bribe them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s productive population enslaved to pay the bills ____ Our Socialist Fifth Column open border leaders’ long term strategy
Yes. But the university paid Salk a salary and gave him a basic lab which was expanded by private donations. It isn’t as if Salk started from nothing before private donations came in.
I sought and received 3MM in tax payer dollars for my business. It allowed us to spend 30MM on construction; money into the hands of plumbers, masons, electricians, et al.
Socialism involves the nationalization of key industries by the state. Leninism and communist ideologies derived from it involves the confiscation of the means of production, or capital, by the dictatorship of the proletariat.
Social democrats basically desire an expanded welfare state and a more equal distribution of the resources generated by capital. They do not desire the nationalization of industrial output.
In addition to the $30MM in direct economic benefit from our $3MM government grant (mentioned above) there is projected to be another $50MM in indirect economic benefit from the construction project: parking, hotels, restaurants, Uber, etc.
This is a wise use of tax payer dollars. $80MM in economic benefit from a $3MM grant.
Of course the politicians we lobbied for the money are smart and visionary and responsible. Not all are like that.
There was a time, some time ago where you would refrain from such stupidity.
I think the age of Trump has put bugs in the brains of some for who it was possible to have reasonable disagreements with but still be able to respect their point.
Sadly… that is happening less and less around here.