The First Lawsuit Is Filed against Joe Biden’s Illegal Student-Loan Move

NCREDSTATE · 2022-09-29T10:59:35.271Z

Axxowiz:

They knew before doing this it will likely go and get struck down by the SC.

Just last year Pelosi

“People think the president of the United States has the power for debt forgiveness,” “He does not. He can postpone. He can delay. But he does not have that power. That has to be an act of Congress.”

There’s nothing in the constitution that has changed since she made that statement last year. Executive orders need to be used for what they were intended renaming parks and other frivolous measures. Both sides abuse the hell out of it they need to be reigned in. Congress controls the purse.

This and the CDC/Eviction order.

I would think doing something you know violates the Constitution would violate your oath of office.

Has Nancy drawn up Articles Of Impeachment yet?

PAmoderate37 · 2022-09-29T11:29:15.238Z

WuWei:

Is it ok if it’s “just a li’l bit”?

To be fair, it’s probably none. Our current taxes are probably still being used to pay off things our grandparents or great grandparents spent on.

Rodeo · 2022-09-29T11:37:02.486Z

Axxowiz:

They knew before doing this it will likely go and get struck down by the SC.

Just last year Pelosi

“People think the president of the United States has the power for debt forgiveness,” “He does not. He can postpone. He can delay. But he does not have that power. That has to be an act of Congress.”

There’s nothing in the constitution that has changed since she made that statement last year. Executive orders need to be used for what they were intended renaming parks and other frivolous measures. Both sides abuse the hell out of it they need to be reigned in. Congress controls the purse.

Great post and 100% correct.

PurpnGold · 2022-09-29T13:56:04.174Z

WuWei:

PurpnGold:

How much of your money is being used? Be specific

Is it ok if it’s “just a li’l bit”?

Sure. I’m paying for a lil bit of a lot of stuff already. Stuff I don’t use.

FreeAndClear · 2022-09-29T14:10:07.529Z

The reduction in the student loan isn’t a reduction in the money that was issued. The reduction is in the income to the government….

The government is letting people keep more of their money. That’s of course bad for those who always want the government to let people keep their money.

WuWei · 2022-09-29T17:14:02.539Z

PurpnGold:

WuWei:

PurpnGold:

How much of your money is being used? Be specific

Is it ok if it’s “just a li’l bit”?

Sure. I’m paying for a lil bit of a lot of stuff already. Stuff I don’t use.

No principles?

WuWei · 2022-09-29T17:14:59.541Z

You do know if Brandon gets a 2nd term he’s going to raise your taxes, right?

FreeAndClear · 2022-09-29T17:26:51.615Z

WuWei:

You do know if Brandon gets a 2nd term he’s going to raise your taxes, right?

Isn’t the sunset provision before his possible second term?

Eta Ah it’s in 2026. I wonder who will control the branch that can actually edit the sunset provision

PAmoderate37 · 2022-09-29T17:28:05.989Z

WuWei:

No principles?

That depends. Just like tax loopholes favor some Americans over other Americans, if the government gives you something to take advantage of you take it. Sooner or later they will do something that doesn’t favor you anyway. It won’t bother me if the court stops this, but if they don’t then even though I am way too old to take advantage of it, at least my kid can.

PAmoderate37 · 2022-09-29T17:28:52.290Z

WuWei:

You do know if Brandon gets a 2nd term he’s going to raise your taxes, right?

How can he do that without making a deal with the Republican House?

FreeAndClear · 2022-09-29T17:29:42.836Z

PAmoderate37:

WuWei:

You do know if Brandon gets a 2nd term he’s going to raise your taxes, right?

How can he do that without making a deal with the Republican House?

There would be another election in 24 for the house though soooo

PAmoderate37 · 2022-09-29T17:38:33.218Z

FreeAndClear:

There would be another election in 24 for the house though soooo

True enough. I just don’t see the Dems winning the house back that soon.

FreeAndClear · 2022-09-29T17:38:46.046Z

PAmoderate37:

FreeAndClear:

There would be another election in 24 for the house though soooo

True enough. I just don’t see the Dems winning the house back that soon.

That’s true.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-09-30T03:37:37.038Z

Welp…looks like the first lawsuit has been smacked down. Next up: 6 Republican states

The Hill – 30 Sep 22

Judge denies student debt cancellation lawsuit after Education Department...

A federal judge on Thursday denied a challenge to President Biden’s student debt forgiveness plan filed by the Pacific Legal Foundation (PLF). PLF on Tuesday became the first organization to challe…

The work around was simplicity itself: don’t give the plaintiff debt relief.

Hexenbiest · 2022-09-30T04:09:22.992Z

I would imagine this will eventually go to the Supreme Court it will be interesting to see if they base their judgment down partisan lines or rule it as an overreach of the executive branch. Who knows they might all green light it. I was under the impression this can only be done by congress. Seems like the WH had the same feelings looking at past comments on the issue until they went ahead and did it.

I am starting to wonder what good is congress if each president runs the country by executive orders like this sure seems those government salaries could go to a better cause.

Striker840 · 2022-09-30T04:20:50.184Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

Not only that he tried, but that mean ol’ Republicans and SC took it away.

Yea, ALL politics, useless.
If it is so popular then there should be absolutely no problem doing it the right way…right??

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-09-30T06:31:27.759Z

Mebbe. I mean, I guess they would want to go to the SC to keep up appearances, but I think the jig is up on this one.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-09-30T06:33:25.745Z

Striker840:

Supreme_War_Pig:

Not only that he tried, but that mean ol’ Republicans and SC took it away.

Yea, ALL politics, useless.
If it is so popular then there should be absolutely no problem doing it the right way…right??

Yeah. And that would make sense if the country was running properly. But it’s not, so this just doesn’t get done.

WuWei · 2022-09-30T11:13:35.310Z

It’s a good ruling and it forced the DOE to clarify.

It should be an opt in instead of opt out, but it’s an ok ruling by a non-Harvard judge from somewhere other than DC.

“In a reversal…”

NPR

In a reversal, the Education Dept. is excluding many from student loan relief

The Biden administration has quietly changed its guidance to disqualify borrowers who have privately-held FFEL and Perkins loans.

Striker840 · 2022-09-30T13:43:32.989Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

Striker840:

Supreme_War_Pig:

Not only that he tried, but that mean ol’ Republicans and SC took it away.

Yea, ALL politics, useless.
If it is so popular then there should be absolutely no problem doing it the right way…right??

Yeah. And that would make sense if the country was running properly. But it’s not, so this just doesn’t get done.

Quit making excuses, I thought Biden was going to “fix” things, you know, bring sanity back to DC. All he is doing is perpetuating the issues we face.

Time to stop doing EO’s and get his party which has the majority to start submitting bills to address what he is addresaing via EO.