The false notion that all or most of these migrants will benefit us economically. Related question, what must one pay in taxes to support themselves and their family?

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Hence growing the GDP is really good.

Allan

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I’m not going to go search for it, but I’ve seen a report that states it is the young black man who is mostly damaged by the illegals…taking their jobs.

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How bout the clown show growing illegal aliens? Is that good for low income US citizens and legal immigrants?

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Illegal immigrant unskilled labor floods the market for entry level positions. This restricts the number of positions available for our HS kids looking for that first job.

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And other low income Americans.

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Most certainly, and this effects how much economic output from these jobs contributes to the US economy. A low income American or a US teenager looking for that first job, will spend 100% of their wages in the US economy. Someone in the thread pointed out that it is mostly young men where they are sending part of the money back to their country of origin. That “some of their money” amounts to billions of dollars a year not spent in our economy.

And where you have families, citizen or immigrant, receiving welfare there is a false GDP contribution generated. Welfare payments, counted as government spending, do not actually represent the production of a good or service. Production of a good or service involves an exchange which determines the value of that good or service. Welfare payments are a redistribution not involving an exchange. Counting them in GDP falsely inflates GDP. And in the case of an illegal immigrant accessing these funds for citizen children, it falsely inflates their contribution to GDP.

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You nailed it. :+1:

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Flooding the nation with poverty will lead to prosperity!

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“We must destroy ourselves to help ourselves comrade! Ask not why or how! Simply do!! For the victory of socialist labor!!!”

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Where is the evidence the migrants from Central America won’t be of benefit? A TV was delivered to our home at 7:00 this morning by two delivery men I would definitely say had indigenous heritage and clearly spoke with Spanish accents.

They’re making deliveries and some native borns are focused on mental retardation like “staying safe”. Jobs are going unfilled.

As a group politically, Hispanic folk already in the U S may be shifting right. They’re not sticking their noses in others’ business re vaccination and they don’t appreciate being penalized by lockdowns.

I’d rather partake in their ideas of getting to work & life going on than those of the brain dead wanting to extend the lives of elderly while restricting and eliminating others’ lives.

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Immigrants sending money to families at home and even returning there is nothing new.

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Are native borns in line to do deleading jobs? Mold and asbestos abatement?

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And the money sent to another country still isn’t helping our economy.

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It’s why those who have endured the legal immigration process speak out against those who literally cut in line and made a mockery of their endeavor to be an American citizen the right way.

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That’s not what the OP is about.

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Virtually none of these people crossing the border are going to be able to support themselves and a family without tremendous taxpayer support. For example, look at these college educated millennials and how they struggle:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/other/struggling-millennial-homeowner-i-didn-t-need-my-degree/vi-BB1gWygX?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=29dfc3719d4743d48d9eaad4905d4b8e&ei=58

Here’s an analogy, say you have an extra room in your house and you rent it out to a migrant family. The deal is that they pay you rent but in return your will pay for all their healthcare and schooling for their kids. Do you believe that you will be financially better off at the end of the year?

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People making $150,000 can end up living paycheck to paycheck, yet these migrants are going to live the American Dream!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/personalfinance/an-economic-divide-that-is-widening-almost-one-third-of-americans-earning-150-000-a-year-or-more-report-living-paycheck-to-paycheck-and-many-rely-on-credit-cards-to-close-the-gap/ar-BB1gZbkE?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=41978473c2f94e80932d540a0085b865&ei=162

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They aren’t Mexican. Too bad you can’t tell the difference.

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“In line”? Nobody is “in line” for those jobs.

Yes, many of the people doing them are native born, many are Latinos. Many didn’t do well in high school or didn’t graduate. Maybe ran into minor issues with the law. All I know have multiple kids. Many have child support as well.

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Is anyone arguing this latest unvetted horde is good for the economy? Certainly not the sanctuary cities that are getting their fair share by bus.
There is an argument that vetted, skilled and educated immigrants can help the economy. We have no idea what we are getting crossing our borders now under the pretext of asylum.
And raising GDP is no plus. Raising GDP per Capita may be.