The end is near...Trump campaign drops Arizona lawsuit

Guilds · 2020-11-14T04:45:34.228Z

zantax:

Bet they inherited them. I travel extensively, many international friends. Norm is you;are screwed until you are forty or so.

Two of my Norwegian friends do share a vacation home, that they inherited. But the homes they live in, they bought., As did my Swedish friends. And my English friends.

We were able to buy a home, only with help from parents. And I was nearly 40.

Guilds · 2020-11-14T04:47:09.378Z

zantax:

Burn those crops to keep the. prices up lol

FDR was imperfect. Not all of the policies were a success. Overall, a very big success.

zantax · 2020-11-14T04:49:30.463Z

Guilds:

zantax:

Bet they inherited them. I travel extensively, many international friends. Norm is you;are screwed until you are forty or so.

Two of my Norwegian friends do share a vacation home, that they inherited. But the homes they live in, they bought., As did my Swedish friends. And my English friends.

We were able to buy a home, only with help from parents. And I was nearly 40.

My euro buds marvel at my property. spare me. Bought my first home at 22.

Guilds · 2020-11-14T04:53:01.414Z

zantax:

Bought my first home at 22.

Which is not the norm.

Congrats.

Today, in the US, the median age for 1st time home buyer, is 47.

zantax · 2020-11-14T04:57:14.938Z

Guilds:

zantax:

Bought my first home at 22.

Which is not the norm.

Congrats.

Today, in the US, the median age for 1st time home buyer, is 47.

median, not average. That is the median of all buyers, not the age most people buy their first home. Old guys buy more homes. Trust me, you don’t want to measure us against the Eu on that. If I buy three homes at 58, that drives the median up age group wise. Says nothing about first home ownership.

zantax · 2020-11-14T05:08:16.238Z

But, listen to those guys and chill.

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Piper · 2020-11-14T05:08:58.993Z

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PA State Rep. Russ Diamond

PA State Rep. Russ Diamond. 24,610 likes · 426 talking about this. Russ Diamond is a member of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives, representing the 102nd Legislative District in Lebanon County.

Republican legislature decides Pennsylvania’s electoral votes.

zantax · 2020-11-14T05:10:24.061Z

Trump lost to Covid, no President wins that one. Hell, Covid would have tanked Obama. I was expecting a blow out.

GrandWazoo · 2020-11-14T06:21:12.085Z

zantax:

Trump lost to Covid, no President wins that one. Hell, Covid would have tanked Obama. I was expecting a blow out.

That is without merit. I think that Obama would have jumped on the problem. Anyone who says that Trump did what he could is totally ignorant.

Rovin · 2020-11-14T07:48:43.772Z

Are you sure that the state isn’t doing the same investigation and Trumps legal team dropped it because of duplication?

zantax · 2020-11-14T14:27:55.945Z

GrandWazoo:

zantax:

Trump lost to Covid, no President wins that one. Hell, Covid would have tanked Obama. I was expecting a blow out.

That is without merit. I think that Obama would have jumped on the problem. Anyone who says that Trump did what he could is totally ignorant.

Especially evil of Trump to hit the EU so hard with it, we know.

WuWei · 2020-11-14T14:39:26.355Z

GrandWazoo:

zantax:

Trump lost to Covid, no President wins that one. Hell, Covid would have tanked Obama. I was expecting a blow out.

That is without merit. I think that Obama would have jumped on the problem. Anyone who says that Trump did what he could is totally ignorant.

Complete denial of the facts.

JayJay · 2020-11-14T14:41:20.006Z

Piper:

PA State Rep. Russ Diamond

Republican legislature decides Pennsylvania’s electoral votes.

And they passed a law that stated the way they choose them is through the certified popular vote.

They are not permitted to change this method after the election. Congress would void any slate of electors they provided in any other manner…and might even void their electoral voice entirely because safe harbor laws would be violated.

For Constitution lovers, none of you seem to know the Constitution.

Piper · 2020-11-14T15:01:53.558Z

JayJay:

And they passed a law that stated the way they choose them is through the certified popular vote.

They are not permitted to change this method after the election. Congress would void any slate of electors they provided in any other manner…and might even void their electoral voice entirely because safe harbor laws would be violated.

For Constitution lovers, none of you seem to know the Constitution.

The Constitution?

This is about Pennsylvania’s legislative branch of government.

Rank and file lawmakers – dismayed by the complaints rolling in from their districts about confusion at the polls – say it’s their “legislative duty” to delve deeper into what went wrong on Election Day.

“We believe this moment is pivotal and important enough that the General Assembly needs to take extraordinary measures to answer these extraordinary questions,” Rep. Dawn Keefer, R-York, said. “We also believe our representative oversight duty as the Pennsylvania’s legislative branch of government demands that we immediately work to establish a forum where these issues can be thoroughly reviewed in full view of the people of Pennsylvania, for the purpose of determining whether Tuesday’s election was conducted fairly and lawfully.”

WorldWatcher · 2020-11-14T15:06:25.638Z

Piper:

The Constitution?

Yes.

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 4
Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
Section 4 - Elections, Meetings
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Place of Chusing Senators.

3 U.S. Code § 1 - Time of appointing electors
U.S. Code
The electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed, in each State, on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November, in every fourth year succeeding every election of a President and Vice President.

The Constitution says Congress sets the day electors are chosen, not the Legislatures. Congress set the date as the 2nd Tuesday after the 1st Monday in November. This year the execution of that law is November 3rd. The electors must be chosen on November 3rd, which happens with the casting of ballots. (That does not mean ballots must be counted by the 3rd, only cast.)
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Piper · 2020-11-14T15:09:16.560Z

WorldWatcher:

Yes.

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 4
Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
Section 4 - Elections, Meetings
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Place of Chusing Senators.

3 U.S. Code § 1 - Time of appointing electors
U.S. Code
The electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed, in each State, on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November, in every fourth year succeeding every election of a President and Vice President.

The Constitution says Congress sets the day electors are chosen, not the Legislatures. Congress set the date as the 2nd Tuesday after the 1st Monday in November. This year the execution of that law is November 3rd. The electors must be chosen on November 3rd, which happens with the casting of ballots. (That does not mean ballots must be counted by the 3rd, only cast.)

I know all of that.

I was not discussing electors. It just happened that it was mentioned in the quoted twitter post.

JayJay · 2020-11-14T15:13:17.952Z

Piper:

JayJay:

And they passed a law that stated the way they choose them is through the certified popular vote.

They are not permitted to change this method after the election. Congress would void any slate of electors they provided in any other manner…and might even void their electoral voice entirely because safe harbor laws would be violated.

For Constitution lovers, none of you seem to know the Constitution.

The Constitution?

This is about Pennsylvania’s legislative branch of government.

Rank and file lawmakers – dismayed by the complaints rolling in from their districts about confusion at the polls – say it’s their “legislative duty” to delve deeper into what went wrong on Election Day.

“We believe this moment is pivotal and important enough that the General Assembly needs to take extraordinary measures to answer these extraordinary questions,” Rep. Dawn Keefer, R-York, said. “We also believe our representative oversight duty as the Pennsylvania’s legislative branch of government demands that we immediately work to establish a forum where these issues can be thoroughly reviewed in full view of the people of Pennsylvania, for the purpose of determining whether Tuesday’s election was conducted fairly and lawfully.”

They still do not have the right to choose their own electors.

If they want to change that for the next election, they can try and do so, but for now they will have to abide by the certified results of the state.

And so far, all of Trump’s lawsuits have failed…the Dept of Homeland Security has signed off on the election as the most secure and normal election ever, as has an international watchdog group.

If the pattern holds, all these “complaints” will be discovered to be partisan and vague…just like they were in Michigan, Arizona, and Nevada.

Soon the election will be certified and if the legislature tries to send any electors other than Biden electors to Washington DC, they risk making null and void Pennsylvania’s electoral voice.

This is a partisan effort to make Trump feel better about losing…nothing more.

merickson · 2020-11-14T15:16:49.640Z

This should be the inaugural theme song.

WorldWatcher · 2020-11-14T15:18:34.260Z

Piper:

WorldWatcher:

Yes.

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 4
Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
Section 4 - Elections, Meetings
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Place of Chusing Senators.

3 U.S. Code § 1 - Time of appointing electors
U.S. Code
The electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed, in each State, on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November, in every fourth year succeeding every election of a President and Vice President.

The Constitution says Congress sets the day electors are chosen, not the Legislatures. Congress set the date as the 2nd Tuesday after the 1st Monday in November. This year the execution of that law is November 3rd. The electors must be chosen on November 3rd, which happens with the casting of ballots. (That does not mean ballots must be counted by the 3rd, only cast.)

I know all of that.

I was not discussing electors. It just happened that it was mentioned in the quoted twitter post.

Which is perfectly fine for State Legislatures to review the election process and make State law changes to their election code for future elections. No problem with that.

But the idea that the State can say “he our guy lost so we’re going to throw out the whole election process that existed at the time of the Constitutionally mandated date and choose electors that support ‘out guy’” is preposterous.

Remember the push for “Textualists” on the SCOTUS, guess what? A textualist would not be an activist Justice and call a State Legislature changing the method and count of electors after the fact Constitutional.
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Piper · 2020-11-14T15:39:12.892Z

WorldWatcher:

Which is perfectly fine for State Legislatures to review the election process and make State law changes to their election code for future elections. No problem with that.

The speaker also requested an audit of the June primary. Flaws with the new mail-in system were detected.