Of course I see the increase in mail-in voting.
So?
Mail-in voting is safe and secure and weâve had entire States using mail-in votes exclusively.
The problem isnât the expansion of mail-in voting, but you are beginning to be honest with âObviously, liberals greatly preferâŚâ. The problem isnât with mail-in voting, itâs that people that choose different candidates then some want shouldnât have the option so it should be suppressed as a method of voting.
WW
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Why do you think mail in voting isnât âas much workâ?
Or that the âextra workâ is somehow a virtuous thing?
Whatâs more importantâŚto put in the work understanding the candidates or to âput in the workâ waiting in line at a polling place?
This idea that somehow showing up in person shows a person is âmore dedicatedâ to voting well makes zero sense to me.
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So? Is the problem that if voters vote more often the GOP loses more often? Isnât the solution to have the GOP reflect the will and desire of the voting population so they win elections? Wanting voting to be more difficult so that the voters vote less seems like a poor long term plan.
Is more liberals voting your complaint?
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Other than voting absentee in 1992 while stationed in Germany, I never felt my vote was suppressed by having to go vote in person on election day. Oh, the horror 
Catering to parasites who want to take more of my money and distribute it to other parasites is my complaint. I mean, at least they could schedule a trip to Wal-Mart on election day to restock their Captain Crunch after voting. Likewise, you and others would complain if this easy and convenient way of voting was removed and they had to actually get off the couch and go vote, right?
Thatâs a respectable and legitimate reason for absentee voting.

So, youâre not even pretending to argue about âfraudâ - youâre just going straight to too many people voted the wrong way, and Iâm mad about it.
At least youâre being honest.
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I just want voters to at least have to go to polling locations and put in the effort to vote. As dumb as the electorate is, Iâd also love to see voters have to pass a small civics test to be eligible. Morons should not be able to put brain-dead candidates in office just because those candidates promise more gimmes, honestly speaking. 
He is in fact correct. I have seen it happen on the rez.
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Thanks, but you are not the arbiter of what constitutes a legitimate reason to vote absentee. The truth is, like it or not, âbeing lazyâ is a legitimate reason to use the mail to vote rather than go in person to the polling place. Personally, I think its more about practicality and convenience than laziness. For a great many people, voting in person requires going well out of their way of their normal routine and spending half an hour or more just standing in line waiting to vote. Iâm retired and my polling place is nearby and not extremely busy at the time I choose to go there to vote. But a great many people, probably the majority of people, must fit voting into their work day and all the transportation situations that commuting to work involves.
We live in a day of credit cards, on-line banking, direct deposit and computer communication. We may not like those things or use them, but all of them were implemented to ⌠and do ⌠improve efficiency and function in the modern society. In that environment, it seems futile and naive to believe that voting should still be analog. Some people pine for the good old days of manually counted paper ballots, but they forget that it took days, often weeks, to get results then too, and recounts in close races often produced contradictory results. And fraud? Do you remember the 1960 election? We are never going back to those days, so quit whining.
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Liberty323:

TheDoctorIsIn:

Liberty323:
Catering to parasites who want to take more of my money and distribute it to other parasites is my complaint. I mean, at least they could schedule a trip to Wal-Mart on election day to restock their Captain Crunch. Likewise, you and others would complain if this easy and convenient way of voting was removed and they had to actually get off the couch and go vote, right?

So, youâre not even pretending to argue about âfraudâ - youâre just going straight to too many people voted the wrong way, and Iâm mad about it.
At least youâre being honest.
I just want voters to at least have to go to polling locations and put in the effort to vote. As dumb as the electorate is, Iâd also love to see voters have to pass a small civics test to be eligible. Morons should not be able to put brain-dead candidates in office just because those candidates promise more gimmes, honestly speaking. 
I agree in principle. An ignorant vote is worse than none at all. Personally, I think the ideal voter turnout is one ⌠me. 
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I most certainly have and it has been going on for years. Tell how much time do you spend on the rez?
Iâll buy that you might have seen it for Nation elections, but U.S. State and Federal? Nope.
For federal and state elections. You really need to get out more.
Okay, maybe there is a misunderstanding. The poster said this:
Are you are claiming that you have seen this on reservations? People are walking around with blank ballots and handing them out?
Seeing as howâŚ
State and Federal Election are run by the State Election CommissionâŚ
In the modern age mail-in security envelopes that the ballots must be returned in to be processed are bar/QR coded to an individual they are issued to by the local election jurisdictionâŚ
Ballots are tightly controlled by the election offices and as such are not generally available to the public and have security features to inhibit duplicationâŚ
In the modern era databases track each individual voters status as to if a ballot was issued and what the status of the returned ballot is. These âblankâ ballots would kick out as having never been issuedâŚ
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That the claims in the modern era of people walking up to peoples homes, into homeless shelters, and around the reservation with stacks of blank ballots buying votes for cigs and other goodies is a fevered dream.
WW

Samm:
Tabulating what a handful of random people said was their issue after they voted is not associated with accuracy of the results of the vote. The issues polls taken prior to the election were done in a scientific manner ⌠they indicated that abortion was an important issue to only around 5% of voters. 5% is more than enough to decide a close election, but only a fool would credit the results of the election on that issue alone.
it more that 5%. a laughably low figure.
do you talk to any gen Z on a regular basis?
i do. 5% just is incorrect. z was pissed at dobbs and showed up at the polls.
Allan

biggestal99:

Samm:
Tabulating what a handful of random people said was their issue after they voted is not associated with accuracy of the results of the vote. The issues polls taken prior to the election were done in a scientific manner ⌠they indicated that abortion was an important issue to only around 5% of voters. 5% is more than enough to decide a close election, but only a fool would credit the results of the election on that issue alone.
it more that 5%. a laughably low figure.
do you talk to any gen Z on a regular basis?
i do. 5% just is incorrect. z was pissed at dobbs and showed up at the polls.
Allan
Under 30 vote was up 11% for that reason.