Of course I see the increase in mail-in voting.

So?

Mail-in voting is safe and secure and we’ve had entire States using mail-in votes exclusively.

The problem isn’t the expansion of mail-in voting, but you are beginning to be honest with “Obviously, liberals greatly prefer…”. The problem isn’t with mail-in voting, it’s that people that choose different candidates then some want shouldn’t have the option so it should be suppressed as a method of voting.

WW

Why do you think mail in voting isn’t “as much work”?

Or that the “extra work” is somehow a virtuous thing?

What’s more important…to put in the work understanding the candidates or to “put in the work” waiting in line at a polling place?

This idea that somehow showing up in person shows a person is “more dedicated” to voting well makes zero sense to me.

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So? Is the problem that if voters vote more often the GOP loses more often? Isn’t the solution to have the GOP reflect the will and desire of the voting population so they win elections? Wanting voting to be more difficult so that the voters vote less seems like a poor long term plan.

Is more liberals voting your complaint?

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Other than voting absentee in 1992 while stationed in Germany, I never felt my vote was suppressed by having to go vote in person on election day. Oh, the horror :joy:

Catering to parasites who want to take more of my money and distribute it to other parasites is my complaint. I mean, at least they could schedule a trip to Wal-Mart on election day to restock their Captain Crunch after voting. Likewise, you and others would complain if this easy and convenient way of voting was removed and they had to actually get off the couch and go vote, right?

That’s a respectable and legitimate reason for absentee voting.

:rofl:

So, you’re not even pretending to argue about “fraud” - you’re just going straight to too many people voted the wrong way, and I’m mad about it.

At least you’re being honest.

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I just want voters to at least have to go to polling locations and put in the effort to vote. As dumb as the electorate is, I’d also love to see voters have to pass a small civics test to be eligible. Morons should not be able to put brain-dead candidates in office just because those candidates promise more gimmes, honestly speaking. :blush:

He is in fact correct. I have seen it happen on the rez.

:laughing: No you haven’t

Thanks, but you are not the arbiter of what constitutes a legitimate reason to vote absentee. The truth is, like it or not, “being lazy” is a legitimate reason to use the mail to vote rather than go in person to the polling place. Personally, I think its more about practicality and convenience than laziness. For a great many people, voting in person requires going well out of their way of their normal routine and spending half an hour or more just standing in line waiting to vote. I’m retired and my polling place is nearby and not extremely busy at the time I choose to go there to vote. But a great many people, probably the majority of people, must fit voting into their work day and all the transportation situations that commuting to work involves.

We live in a day of credit cards, on-line banking, direct deposit and computer communication. We may not like those things or use them, but all of them were implemented to … and do … improve efficiency and function in the modern society. In that environment, it seems futile and naive to believe that voting should still be analog. Some people pine for the good old days of manually counted paper ballots, but they forget that it took days, often weeks, to get results then too, and recounts in close races often produced contradictory results. And fraud? Do you remember the 1960 election? We are never going back to those days, so quit whining.

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I agree in principle. An ignorant vote is worse than none at all. Personally, I think the ideal voter turnout is one … me. :smirk:

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I most certainly have and it has been going on for years. Tell how much time do you spend on the rez?

I’ll buy that you might have seen it for Nation elections, but U.S. State and Federal? Nope.

For federal and state elections. You really need to get out more.

Okay, maybe there is a misunderstanding. The poster said this:

Are you are claiming that you have seen this on reservations? People are walking around with blank ballots and handing them out?

Seeing as how…

State and Federal Election are run by the State Election Commission…

In the modern age mail-in security envelopes that the ballots must be returned in to be processed are bar/QR coded to an individual they are issued to by the local election jurisdiction…

Ballots are tightly controlled by the election offices and as such are not generally available to the public and have security features to inhibit duplication…

In the modern era databases track each individual voters status as to if a ballot was issued and what the status of the returned ballot is. These “blank” ballots would kick out as having never been issued…
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That the claims in the modern era of people walking up to peoples homes, into homeless shelters, and around the reservation with stacks of blank ballots buying votes for cigs and other goodies is a fevered dream.

WW

it more that 5%. a laughably low figure.

do you talk to any gen Z on a regular basis?

i do. 5% just is incorrect. z was pissed at dobbs and showed up at the polls.

Allan

Under 30 vote was up 11% for that reason.