The death of teh american ideal

Did find this though:

which starts off:

December 3, 2018. Seems troubling.

All the outrage? One article? I thought the guy who wrote it was a journalist. Where did the article say he was a democrat?

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From the article.

“Today’s electronic devices contain vast quantities of highly personal information that the Supreme Court has repeatedly held requires a warrant to be searched in other contexts,” in the U.S. District Court of Massachusetts says. “The border search context is no different.”

“The border search contest is no different”. There may be a little problem with that one. It will take throwing out a deal of precedence.

“That searches made at the border, pursuant to the longstanding right of the sovereign to protect itself by stopping and examining persons and property crossing into this country, are reasonable simply by virtue of the fact that they occur at the border, should, by now, require no extended demonstration.”

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6107136132398268257

It would help the governments position if they could show some benefit from all those searches, though.

And the “border” extends to 100 miles including from the coast. Or is it more now?

Ya its why I stopped visiting the U.S Border agent have been horrible lately (under Obama too)

There’s a border in Hartsfield-Jackson where CBP agents are doing this.

100 miles they monitor all transportation in that range.

taking a train from NYC to Niagara fall NY to spend the weekend the CBP will be around asking for your papers even if you don’t cross the border.

Pretty much the CBP can stop anyone within the state of NY and demand proof of citizenship.

They stop buses, trains, etc traveling WITHIN America that have never left America and ask for papers.

They need to be able to search anything and everything coming into the country, I don’t find the idea to even be debatable, but they don’t need to be harassing people they way they did this guy. They are horribly abusing that power and the article is a prime example of just that.

Does border patrol have civilians oversight?

Congressional

I think all law enforcement agencies should have civilian oversight committees

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teh border patrol agents should be arrested and jailed. maybe lockign a few up for a decade or 2 would change their behavior

You guys act like this is new…

It’s been going on for months!!!

It’s been well over a year since I first heard about it. It’s getting worse and worse on an almost daily basis now however, as the numbers confirm.

I don’t disagree.

This incorrect, aka LYING, statement alone discredits the entire article, this guy is a leftist liberal hack! The kids in cages, separation of families were all policies during the Obama administration but yet leftist MSM and leftist socialist Democrats spew this crap all the time that it’s all Trump, when it’s all just a load of bull.

I knew these were the guys putting kids in cages, separating refugee children from their parents, and that Trump’s whole shtick is vilifying immigrants, leading to many sad and ugly scenes at the border, including the farcical deployment of U.S. troops.

So you are saying this doesn’t happen at all?

The only conclusion one can reach from that diatribe is that if Obama did something abhorrent, it’s okay for Trump to do the same thing. That is a ■■■■■■ up outlook.