The Curious Case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia

We have established no such thing. You have simply declared it to be so.

Gee! Where have I heard that before?

So what are you saying? You suddenly don’t support sending these people to prison in ES despite defending it for weeks?

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No, they don’t. The US never requested Garcia be locked up.

I don’t know, probably from someone smart who isn’t a partisan stooge.

All they have to do is be sure a court in DC or NYC gets the case and they can get a conviction of any Republican. All the procedures will be applied, just the justice will be missing.
Just like with Garcia where the procedures were not properly applied but the justice was there.

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You get it. It’s pretty naive to think the Democrats aren’t taking notes and making plans for 2029.

Well, maybe. We don’t really know if justice was served since Garcia (and hundreds of others) didn’t get their day in court.

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How was “justice there” by locking Abrego up indefinitely? What’s he guilty of?

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That has been described many times. This is just into rehashing.

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The answer, as you well know Doug, is that there was no justice.

You don’t get to lock up people for “alleged” in media reports and Trump Inc unsubstantiated claims.

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Common sense tells you exactly what he was doing when transporting those people through Tennessee. You know it, your narrative is just more important.

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Common sense is not a conviction, Doug. You don’t get to imprison people without a conviction.

That’s my narrative.

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I agree. But it doesn’t always result in an injustice.

MISTAKE

Of course it does. Without a conviction and due process, there is no justice.

The man has no criminal history, yet he is in prison.

Trump Inc convinced you he is bad in the court of public opinion. That’s propaganda Doug.

What was done to him was executive branch vigilantism.

Now, if that’s the country we want to be, fine. Suspend the Constitution and judiciary and let’s get on with it. But don’t pretend. And when it happens to you or yours, don’t regret.

It never ends. There’s always another state of emergency, always another group.

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ES put him there. The US had nothing to do with Garcia’s incarceration.

Well as long as you don’t include…

Detaining him.

Preventing meaningful contact with his family and attorney.

Providing no court access to challenge is detention.

No court access to challenge his transportation to an ES concentration camp - the one country in the world the administration was under judicial order (Judge Jones) NOT to send him to.

Loading him on a plane and sending him to ES in violation of a US Federal District (Judge Boasberg ) who ordered the flight to stop before it ever took off.

And US Marshalls turning him over to the concentration camp with no criminal charges either in the US or ES.

Yep, nothing to do with it.

WW

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:point_up:Made up nonsense.

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This is the cutest of the talking points. And it’s just starting to walk too.

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Perfectly legal. He was in this country illegally.

He was mistakenly sent to ES.

The key point is that once Garcia arrived, ES was free do do what they wanted with him. Unlike the 238 TdA gang members, the US didn’t pay ES to take Garcia, nor did the US pay to incarcerate him.