The constitutional right to privacy

Smyrna · 2019-05-22T12:49:56.473Z

Plasmaball:

We arent…

that’s baaaaaa, baaaaaaa, baaaaaad.

Plasmaball · 2019-05-22T12:52:34.417Z

Do you like watch content children programming or something and that’s why you speak to us like we are toddlers?

FreeAndClear · 2019-05-22T12:52:38.708Z

You didn’t answer my question. You just kind of yelled into the void. How Much privacy does a person deserve?

FreeAndClear · 2019-05-22T12:53:37.618Z

If she agrees to it how is it an illegal search. She chooses…

Snow96 · 2019-05-22T12:56:39.164Z

Snow96:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers , and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,

I just stated it to you:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers , and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,

FreeAndClear · 2019-05-22T12:57:27.865Z

That’s an emanation. Whatever happened to originalists? Where have all you gone?

Plasmaball · 2019-05-22T13:02:57.456Z

That’s not it…keep looking

Snow96 · 2019-05-22T13:03:00.731Z

Time for that presedant to be over turned.

Taxes are NOT voluntary. See what happens if you refuse to do your tax forms and turn them in. As such, they should fall under the right to be secure since the government demands the information or you go to jail.

BlueTex · 2019-05-22T13:39:50.898Z

Snow96:

Time for that presedant to be over turned.

Taxes are NOT voluntary. See what happens if you refuse to do your tax forms and turn them in. As such, they should fall under the right to be secure since the government demands the information or you go to jail.

What has changed that would justify overturning this case?

Smyrna · 2019-05-22T13:46:03.285Z

FreeAndClear:

You didn’t answer my question. You just kind of yelled into the void. How Much privacy does a person deserve?

Privacy isn’t a “deserve”, it’s a RIGHT under the Constitution.

Plasmaball · 2019-05-22T13:51:23.093Z

No it isnt

BlueTex · 2019-05-22T13:51:38.995Z

Smyrna:

Privacy isn’t a “deserve”, it’s a RIGHT under the Constitution.

Is tax information the property of the person or corporation submitting the information?

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2019-05-22T13:58:34.327Z

all the liar in the white house had to do was honor his own word.

no integrity.

FreeAndClear · 2019-05-22T14:38:58.294Z

That’s strange, I could have sworn we limit rights in this country.

Jezcoe · 2019-05-22T14:51:27.086Z

Plasmaball:

No it isnt

You are correct.

Privacy is an implied right, not an express right.

Which is why I can’t get down with the strict Constructionist interpretation of the Constitution.

Plasmaball · 2019-05-22T15:06:46.506Z

Snows argument is the exact same for abortion…

Same for symrna…which is the amusing part

FloridaYankee · 2019-05-22T15:13:53.355Z

Jezcoe:

You are correct.

Privacy is an implied right, not an express right.

Which is why I can’t get down with the strict Constructionist interpretation of the Constitution.

Indeed the word never appears in the entire document. However as you said, it is implied, and quite strongly. Rights not listed are reserved to the people and the states as we know, leaving too much wiggle room in my opinion, I always found that language a little disconcerting. If to the states, that gives them great authority, but if to the people, as in individually OR collectively, it is they who are in charge of this plethora of rights that couldn’t possibly all be listed. It can be a tough question, is it the people, the states or both and why? Perhaps if they offered some broad categories of unlisted rights that surely exist and delineated which categories might belong to states and which to individuals it would eliminate a lot of arguments and SCOTUS court cases.

Or maybe I’m just rambling in a stream of consciousness line of BS lol.

WuWei · 2019-05-22T23:00:22.157Z

Yes, there is a right to privacy. No it is not in the Constitution.

It is an ephor construct.

FloridaYankee · 2019-05-22T23:16:54.018Z

WuWei:

Yes, there is a right to privacy. No it is not in the Constitution.

It is an ephor construct.

And very strongly implied. “Persons” and “effects” particularly.

SixFoot · 2019-05-22T23:38:27.470Z

I like the 2004-conservative-style lib stance in this thread.