The conservative view of race

DMK · 2021-02-22T22:47:27.395Z

Axxowiz:

What I see are educated people griping about things poor people of any race have no clue about. And the focus completely on race is only dividing society more not sure if that is the goal but that’s what is happening according to all the race surveys.

My question is why focus on race?

A lot of people have brought up good points:

Culture
Education
Family
Morals and values

DMK · 2021-02-22T22:53:45.055Z

altair1013:

Conservatives believe that racial stereo types exist among some people. Both on the right and left.

Of course they do. If I am walking on a street and I see someone that sets my alarm bells off I’m going to go out of my way to avoid them. I don’t care what race they are, if I even know at the time or later what race they are.

Smyrna · 2021-02-22T23:02:52.410Z

She was mortified because we both knew why she had concluded otherwise. I was brown and she therefore assumed that I was “the help”

I waved away the mistake and she and her husband sat down and asked me what I was working on. We had a long chat about our favourite books, life in the UK versus US and how lucky we were to be sailing across the Pacific – and it was utterly lovely.

That was the racism in this story…her “assuming” that she assumed. It was reversed but that doesn’t count, does it? Now remove the hate and guess what, “it was utterly lovely”.

JayJay · 2021-02-22T23:25:19.468Z

Smyrna:

She was mortified because we both knew why she had concluded otherwise. I was brown and she therefore assumed that I was “the help”

I waved away the mistake and she and her husband sat down and asked me what I was working on. We had a long chat about our favourite books, life in the UK versus US and how lucky we were to be sailing across the Pacific – and it was utterly lovely.

That was the racism in this story…her “assuming” that she assumed. It was reversed but that doesn’t count, does it? Now remove the hate and guess what, “it was utterly lovely”.

This is what you got out of the story?

altair1013 · 2021-02-23T01:28:00.368Z

JayJay:

But I would ask you how we would make it so stories such as above happen less and less in ways that won’t make anyone feel guilty for something they didn’t do.

We start by not inventing fake stories of racism. The inner cities are not full of people who are being oppressed. They are full of people who have no marketable skills. In the inner cities, the head of the household is typically the grandmother. In the suburbs it’s usually the father. There is a reason that suburban minorities have jobs and inner city ones do not. And it has nothing to do with race.

altair1013 · 2021-02-23T01:29:58.570Z

DMK:

My question is why focus on race?

A lot of people have brought up good points:

Culture

Education

Family

Morals and values

Because they don’t want solutions. The want to convince people that conservatives are out to get them And it’s working.

RTchoke · 2021-02-23T06:56:05.151Z

Well, ya know…“all white people are racist”.

fallenturtle · 2021-02-23T07:11:51.495Z

■■■■■■■ grandmothers!

CanadianJudo · 2021-02-23T07:21:45.519Z

altair1013:

JayJay:

But I would ask you how we would make it so stories such as above happen less and less in ways that won’t make anyone feel guilty for something they didn’t do.

We start by not inventing fake stories of racism. The inner cities are not full of people who are being oppressed. They are full of people who have no marketable skills. In the inner cities, the head of the household is typically the grandmother. In the suburbs it’s usually the father. There is a reason that suburban minorities have jobs and inner city ones do not. And it has nothing to do with race.

majority of people living in cities have jobs.
most jobs don’t require marketable skills, 90% of the labor force could be replaced with otters and it might improve.

CanadianJudo · 2021-02-23T07:29:40.709Z

DMK:

Axxowiz:

What I see are educated people griping about things poor people of any race have no clue about. And the focus completely on race is only dividing society more not sure if that is the goal but that’s what is happening according to all the race surveys.

My question is why focus on race?

A lot of people have brought up good points:

Culture

Education

Family

Morals and values

Why, because America choose to divide itself based on race.
Its the easiest way to divide people because its easy I’m blue, Your red.
red people are bad, blue people are good.

tribalism is defining part of human society even we are are all the same colour we divide and conquer.
You don’t think “Racism/Bigotry” doesn’t exist in the rest of the world, There is no such thing as “African” or “Asian” or “Middle Eastern” those are term we created because we are lazy.

Japanese people hate none Japanese, they mass murdered South Korean because they are lesser race.
China has literally mass murdered everyone who isn’t Han, right now China has literal internment camp housing over a million people because they are not “Chinese” enough. China might be the most bigoted, Racist country in history.

Africa, Middle East, Europe its all the same.

Axxowiz · 2021-02-23T09:48:51.866Z

You have China right, Japan wants to keep things Japanese and will treat you like royalty visiting and not so bad working but just don’t move there which is next to impossible anyways you will always be a foreigner.

JayJay · 2021-02-23T13:45:42.812Z

altair1013:

JayJay:

But I would ask you how we would make it so stories such as above happen less and less in ways that won’t make anyone feel guilty for something they didn’t do.

We start by not inventing fake stories of racism. The inner cities are not full of people who are being oppressed. They are full of people who have no marketable skills. In the inner cities, the head of the household is typically the grandmother. In the suburbs it’s usually the father. There is a reason that suburban minorities have jobs and inner city ones do not. And it has nothing to do with race.

This is nice but it didn’t apply to the story I just shared.

altair1013 · 2021-02-23T13:49:02.373Z

CanadianJudo:

Why, because America choose to divide itself based on race.

You couldn’t be more wrong. Liberal America is actively dividing Americans by race. Conservative have pretty much had enough of this crap.

zantax · 2021-02-23T17:21:02.291Z

Smyrna:

She was mortified because we both knew why she had concluded otherwise. I was brown and she therefore assumed that I was “the help”

I waved away the mistake and she and her husband sat down and asked me what I was working on. We had a long chat about our favourite books, life in the UK versus US and how lucky we were to be sailing across the Pacific – and it was utterly lovely.

That was the racism in this story…her “assuming” that she assumed. It was reversed but that doesn’t count, does it? Now remove the hate and guess what, “it was utterly lovely”.

I see entitled Americans assume people are the help all the time, and yes it’s even often white people they make the assumption about. The fewer actual employees in the area, the greater the chance someone is going to accost another shopper trying to get service. And it’s sort of elitist to get bent out of shape about it as well. Because what that says is, service people are way below your station and therefore offensive to assume I am one of them.

WuWei · 2021-02-23T17:24:33.371Z

Why is assuming somebody is a worker an insult?

SixFoot · 2021-02-23T17:25:33.599Z

Everything is racial to a racist.

zantax · 2021-02-23T17:41:38.035Z

WuWei:

Why is assuming somebody is a worker an insult?

That’s what I said.

TheRedComet · 2021-02-23T17:56:56.154Z

I’d rather someone assume that I’m a working man than a bum.

WuWei · 2021-02-23T18:35:47.849Z

Seems like some people feel like working is beneath them.

TheRedComet · 2021-02-23T18:56:41.924Z

Bums and dregs.

I love to work. If I couldn’t work, I’d honestly probably shoot myself.

It keeps me focused and sane. I’m a man that needs repetition and stability to stay happy.

I see some of the people I went to school with and it’s just… depressing. Always asking for money, always broke. No patterns. Just randomness and aimlessness. But yet no shame about being a bum.

I could never live like that. It’s different if you lose a job and have to find other work. But to willingly not work? I can’t even imagine it. Going years without a job? And by choice?

Screw that crap. I don’t want anyone to have that kind of power over me. Which is what you give up as a bum. You give up any sense of independence and are at the mercy of others to give you a hand out.