dude, the university of tex at austin and texas A&M have top notch engineering programs as does Purdue. some of the better business programs can be had in AL and AR as well as UNC at chapel hill. for computer sciences excellent programs can be found at abeline christian university, AL A&M, AL State, Appalachian state and AR tech. science and tech; universtiy of miami, in university, baylor and bringham young all have great progams

you are seriously ignorant of facts on this subject and come armed only with bias

Is this for real? You honestly don’t understand why I might perceive a piece of personhood legislation like LA’s HB-813, or other trigger laws already in place, as limiting my bodily autonomy over the most intimate aspects of my life?

I get if you disagree, but this position somehow confuses you, even as an idea? If you can’t make that tiny step to understand something so obvious—I’m not sure we have anything else to talk about.

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do you live there? if not, they do nothing to your bodily autonomy. you may as well be complaining about laws in canada.

federally, abortion is less restricted now than it was under roe.

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So the idea that the individual states will now have the opportunity to make decisions within the framework of our republic as intended by the founders following a really fairly moderate interpretation of what has always been considered really bad law is lost on you.

Your right…we really have nothing to talk about.

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Did you read the OP? It’s about choosing not to go to college in states that have, or are likely to have, say, personhood-begins-with conception laws. We basically agree. But other people in this thread find this logic confusing.

I understand the states rights/federalist approach. I disagree and think it’s disingenuous, but it’s not confusing. I get the logic.

In contrast, you asked:

How come liberals keep saying the recent Supreme Court decision will lead to less freedom?

I’m referring to individual negative liberty; the sphere in which I am allowed to speak and act as an individual without interference from government. So, you really can’t see how i might perceive the state forcing me to carry a pregnancy to term or investigating a miscarriage in a homicide case infringes on my freedom?

Go Bobcats!

yes, its about people who demonstrate they likely could have difficulty getting into community college making dumb pronouncements about what they weren’t going to do anyway,

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so much hyperbole, so little logic

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As I said above…I ve gone from being pretty agnostic on abortion…believing there were cases where it probably was the best idea, that it’s none of my business…safe, rare, legal…

To being revolted by state legislatures and even by a former baby doctor governor talking about ā€œabortionā€ at a time when the baby was being delivered. Y’all abused that trust from many of us to the point where imho it all became murder.

Now that the Supreme Court has correctly ruled abortion rests in the hands of the 50 laboratories called the states. You’ve got plenty of places you’ll be able to go to end the life if your unborn baby…

And at the moment no one has done anything to legitimately convince me that libs are anything but hypocrites who believe they can intimidate and bully their way to their way or no way. Perhaps that’s why the left is headed toward a needed and historic beating in November.

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Thank you

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Here’s what I see…

I ve lived in two states…

Born and raised in oregon…

Moved to Texas.

Oregon will under its current leadership and the attitudes in Portland which dominate statewide politics make abortions as available as M & M’s on Halloween…

That’s not the case in Texas.

Your ā€œchoiceā€ seems to avoid the life of the baby.

I choose Texas.

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I thought that was a given.

Conservatives have had to live in the sphere of negative liberty for decades. How many states have infringed on our 2nd amendment right to bear arms? I don’t care what you Libs do to your bodies, but the body created inside a woman when she gets pregnant.

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What’s the hyperbole in this post?

I’m referring to negative liberty: the sphere in which I am allowed to speak and act as an individual without interference from government. So, you really can’t see how i might perceive the state forcing me to carry a pregnancy to term or investigating a miscarriage in a homicide case infringes on my freedom?

What was aborted in the recent Supreme Court decision overturning Roe vs. Wade was the Left’s claim to tolerance. They obviously have enjoyed the years of legislating from the bench when making laws is in the realm of Congress. Congress makes laws, not the court. Members of Congress are elected by the people whereas Judges are appointed.
If you don’t like the laws then change them through elections and the representatives you chose, but the Left seems to thing riots, threats, vandalism, and even assassination is an appropriate approach to getting their way.

The Left Aborts Its Right To Be Called Tolerant … Or Intelligent – Issues & Insights

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Yes they hate violence. Unless they’re the ones doing it.

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Oh lord is right. Putting their education as secondary to over whether they might need an abortion or not sounds like a real mature, goal oriented person :roll_eyes:

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