Rodeo
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No I m sorry that isn’t allowed.
This kind of simple reality must be complicated and convoluted as much as possible to keep libs silly ideas relevant.
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STODR
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Trying to tie someones drug use miscarriage to someone who has a miscarriage that you know damn well we are discussing, is dishonest and a flat out lie, to compare. Be better.
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Guvnah
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They know they’re doing that. It’s standard lib dishonesty.
The initial lib red herring in this thread was that an abortion ban would lead to a general investigation of miscarriages. Now they have a single incident that was so obvious to attending medical personnel that it got reported. The use of that incident for this discussion is to suggest that, “See? They’re gonna do it with all miscarriages…”
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I’m still not understanding libs’ squealing like stuck pigs over Roe’s going belly up & reverting to the states. Even the late Ruth Bader Ginsburg wasn’t an advocate of the Roe vs Wade decision:
She was right. It never was about pregnant women’s ability to make choices at all, but something far more sinister.
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WuWei
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I use the term where appropriate. I am a liberal.
Nonsense. The question was: are women investigated for having a miscarriage. The answer is unequivocally, yes.
Yet you all want to pretend that somehow, the aperture widening effect of striking Roe isn’t going to result in many more investigations.
It’s ridiculous.
You won. Don’t pretend there isn’t going to be consequences.
JayJay
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Nobody is doing anything of the kind.
Sure a natural miscarriage is different from an abortion…but miscarriages can also be abortions…IF they were self-induced.
And it’s not always easy to tell the difference. So if you do not believe at least some miscarriages are going to be investigated as possible abortions, you are deluding yourselves.
Plus there are any manner of medically-induced abortions that are done for medically valid reasons where because of the vague nature of some of the new abortion restriction laws, could give doctors pause before they perform them.
Potentially putting women’s lives at risk.
This is one reason why those countries that have restrictive abortion laws also have women with more health issues.
It’s not as black and white, medically, as some of you would like it to be.
Something many of you didn’t consider while on your moral crusade.
(You of course probably also didn’t consider that there were likely more abortions in the US back when abortions were mostly illegal than there are today. These laws will not make abortions more rare…only more dangerous).
STODR
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Yes that was the question. Anyone with a 50 IQ understands we were not talking about someone who does something illigal to cause it. You lost the narrative and trying to save face is pathetic.
I don’t buy it. You say “likely more abortions” rather than providing any data to back it up. You are making this up and trying to invoke visions of poor women who will once again be forced to resort to those back alley abortions with a coat hanger. It was rare then and will be even more rare now.
You guys insist on lying about the whole issue, but then lying about things is the standard M.O. of Libs on everything. According to you guys, people are just too poor…. They can’t even get IDs they’re so poor. I wonder if you need an ID to get an abortion?? Don’t know. I wonder though how many of those “poor” women who are too broke to go to a state that provides abortions (and this is assuming their home state enacts a total ban), have no problem traveling to another state to buy weed? Or even buy weed in their home state…
Stop lying about this issue. There has been NO federal ban on abortions. The power to decide has been returned to it’s rightful place, to the PEOPLE of each state, even Uber Lib RBG didn’t think Roe was a right decision.
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My, my. So spittle flecked and frothy.
Question: why are you so invested in trying to convince me that something that has happened, and will happen again is not going to happen?
You mention “something illegal to cause it”. Like say…I dunno…taking an aborteficient in a red state perhaps?

Supreme_War_Pig:
My, my. So spittle flecked and frothy.
Question: why are you so invested in trying to convince me that something that has happened, and will happen again is not going to happen?
You mention “something illegal to cause it”. Like say…I dunno…taking an aborteficient in a red state perhaps?
Why do you guys insist on saying “ NO ONE IS TRYING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS” when clearly it’s happening. Why do you guys treat all gun owners as potential criminals and pass laws that infringe on their CONSTITUTIONAL right to bear arms?
I’m guessing you don’t like this game anymore…
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Optrader:

Supreme_War_Pig:
My, my. So spittle flecked and frothy.
Question: why are you so invested in trying to convince me that something that has happened, and will happen again is not going to happen?
You mention “something illegal to cause it”. Like say…I dunno…taking an aborteficient in a red state perhaps?
Why do you guys insist on saying “ NO ONE IS TRYING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS” when clearly it’s happening. Why do you guys treat all gun owners as potential criminals and pass laws that infringe on their CONSTITUTIONAL right to bear arms?
I’m guessing you don’t like this game anymore…
I don’t say or think those things (being a gun owner myself), and I defy you to find a post saying otherwise.
All in all, a swing an’ a miss😆
But speaking of guns: there’s another area where you have just won a huge victory, yet you still emote martyrdom and persecution.
Is your sense of victimhood so ingrained that even a win is a loss?
STODR
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Supreme_War_Pig:
My, my. So spittle flecked and frothy.
Question: why are you so invested in trying to convince me that something that has happened, and will happen again is not going to happen?
You mention “something illegal to cause it”. Like say…I dunno…taking an aborteficient in a red state perhaps?
No spittle just telling everyone like it is.
Because you are lieing about what was being talked about.
I love the intentional correlation between poor and weed… especially after leading with this
You know, I like Whoopi Goldberg. I don’t always agree with her politics, but I’ve always enjoyed her performances in film.
And I believe her suspension from the View for daring to state the Holocaust was not about race, but about man’s inhumanity to man, was wrong. Anyone that sensitive needs to turn off the tv,
But she’s giving libs a lunatic image in her rant against Justice Thomas. Does she not realize that with Planned Parenthood clinics located in largely minority neighborhoods, abortion reduces black, Hispanic and Asian Americans to zero personhood?
JayJay
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Optrader:

JayJay:

Optrader:
You guys can’t even be honest about the difference between an abortion and a miscarriage.
A miscarriage is a SPONTANEOUS loss of an unborn baby, which the mother DID NOT want to happen as opposed to an abortion, which is a DELIBERATE KILLING of an unborn baby.
You are deliberately trying to interchange the terms to make them morally equivalent or equally common occurrences. They’re not, but you already knew this.
Nobody is doing anything of the kind.
Sure a natural miscarriage is different from an abortion…but miscarriages can also be abortions…IF they were self-induced.
And it’s not always easy to tell the difference. So if you do not believe at least some miscarriages are going to be investigated as possible abortions, you are deluding yourselves.
Plus there are any manner of medically-induced abortions that are done for medically valid reasons where because of the vague nature of some of the new abortion restriction laws, could give doctors pause before they perform them.
Potentially putting women’s lives at risk.
This is one reason why those countries that have restrictive abortion laws also have women with more health issues.
It’s not as black and white, medically, as some of you would like it to be.
Something many of you didn’t consider while on your moral crusade.
(You of course probably also didn’t consider that there were likely more abortions in the US back when abortions were mostly illegal than there are today. These laws will not make abortions more rare…only more dangerous).
I don’t buy it. You say “likely more abortions” rather than providing any data to back it up. You are making this up and trying to invoke visions of poor women who will once again be forced to resort to those back alley abortions with a coat hanger. It was rare then and will be even more rare now.
You guys insist on lying about the whole issue, but then lying about things is the standard M.O. of Libs on everything. According to you guys, people are just too poor…. They can’t even get IDs they’re so poor. I wonder if you need an ID to get an abortion?? Don’t know. I wonder though how many of those “poor” women who are too broke to go to a state that provides abortions (and this is assuming their home state enacts a total ban), have no problem traveling to another state to buy weed? Or even buy weed in their home state…
Stop lying about this issue. There has been NO federal ban on abortions. The power to decide has been returned to it’s rightful place, to the PEOPLE of each state, even Uber Lib RBG didn’t think Roe was a right decision.
Your posts are pure gold…in what they say about you, rather than all these women about whom you make a multitude of assumptions just so you can stand in moral superiority to them.
You don’t buy it because you don’t want to buy it, not because you “know” that I am “lying”.
Guvnah
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Basically, libs like this are telling Thomas, “You need to sit down, shut up, and know your place.”
Goldberg is just one of many exercising this rant.
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Guvnah
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I have no doubt @Optrader is not concerned about this sort of charge coming from the likes of you.

Supreme_War_Pig:

Optrader:

Supreme_War_Pig:
My, my. So spittle flecked and frothy.
Question: why are you so invested in trying to convince me that something that has happened, and will happen again is not going to happen?
You mention “something illegal to cause it”. Like say…I dunno…taking an aborteficient in a red state perhaps?
Why do you guys insist on saying “ NO ONE IS TRYING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS” when clearly it’s happening. Why do you guys treat all gun owners as potential criminals and pass laws that infringe on their CONSTITUTIONAL right to bear arms?
I’m guessing you don’t like this game anymore…
I don’t say or think those things (being a gun owner myself), and I defy you to find a post saying otherwise.
All in all, a swing an’ a miss😆
But speaking of guns: there’s another area where you have just won a huge victory, yet you still emote martyrdom and persecution.
Is your sense of victimhood so ingrained that even a win is a loss?
Not you specifically, but it is the Lib position on guns. Yes, absolutely, I’ll take the win on guns, on abortion and the coach who was just vindicated by SCOTUS too, and I’ll add it’s about time the Constitution is being upheld in this country.
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