I don’t believe it.
How can someone constantly ask for something then fight against it…makes no sense.
sikofit
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Its not my arguement. Ask @WuWei how he feels about a free national ID/database?
Such an ID wouldn’t be used for voting alone. It’s a slippery slope
sikofit
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For the record, I’m not POEing but that is a devil’s advocate post. I actually am quite torn about national IDs
WuWei
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How do you feel about a national vaccination ID?
WuWei
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An ID card that would be used as proof of COVID vaccination. Stand alone.
sikofit
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My answer didn’t change. Are we about to do that thing you do where you ask the same exact question over and over repeatedly with slightly different wording?
WuWei
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Why the defensiveness? Fine, I was just checking. This epidemic and hopefully vaccine is going to require some logistics.
For example, if we decide we can open up rap concerts to those who have been vaccinated (because it is that effective), how are we going to check 20,000 people’s vaccination records as they come in so we don’t have a superspreader reinfection event?
sikofit
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There will be no database. What will probably happen is some type of card similar to a “I voted” sticker that keeps the identity anonymous. Yes that has serious issues but anything more invasive would get tied up in the courts for longer than the need for the ID itself.
WuWei
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An “I got vaccinated” sticker?
What does that prove?
I don’t think you’ve thought this though.
sikofit
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Sure I did. Yes it can be easily passed from one person to another. Anything more invasive would be tied up with legal challenges for years beyond the danger presented by Covid
WuWei
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How long is COVID going to last?
sikofit
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IMO it won’t be a serious issue beyond 2021 if the vaccinations pan out
WuWei
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You will be wearing a mask to vote in the next Presidential election.
sikofit
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Why would I do that when I didn’t wear one to vote in the one we just had without a vaccination available?
JayJay
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There will be a database.
It’s called Tiberius.
I know the company building it…you better hope they do a good job keeping PII out of the db.
Their track record with PII is not stellar (they are great at this type of work, though).
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WuWei
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If you vote in person. You knew that.
WuWei
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Is the contact tracing part of it?
JayJay
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Right now it’s being developed to oversee tracking and delivery of the vaccine, and how many doses of the vaccine get administered at each facility to which the vaccine is shipped.
They build systems that make it really easy to layer in additional information so they could use the same system for contact tracing.
They have already developed a similar system for HHS that monitors infection and hospitalization patterns throughout the US.
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sikofit
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Why would I need a mask if I’m vaccinated? Wouldn’t I know by then if my physiology responds favorably to it and provides me with an immunity or not?