The Article III Courts can function normally for 5 more days, after that, it gets very interesting

Safiel · 2019-01-06T05:25:11.594Z

As for the future, I would like to see a statute that would establish a permanent appropriation for the Article III Judiciary that would not need to be renewed year to year. It would automatically be adjusted for inflation. It would ONLY fund court operations, NOT court improvements or other projects, which would still be funded by a yearly appropriation bill.

The courts should never be forced to close by a funding cutoff, as it is a direct affront to justice.

calirepub · 2019-01-06T05:27:08.759Z

Safiel:

calirepub:

Safiel:

calirepub:

This sounds VERY interesting. I wonder if this will influence Trump to accept government funding that doesn’t include a wall.

J14 is almost here.

Probably not.

Ironically, civil cases against him are on hold as a result of the shutdown, so this might give him the opposite motivation.

That seems like such a vulgar application of the law. I’m disappointed in Mitch for not bringing the government funding bill to a vote. It would pass by a veto proof majority. Mitch just doesn’t want to make Donald look bad.

I put this 100% on Donald Trump.

McConnell is between a rock and a hard place. He has Senator’s that are beholden to Trump’s nativist base. He is in a no win situation. If Trump stopped with the wall nonsense, this problem would cease to exist.

I agree. I’ve been calling it the Great Trump/McConnell Christmas Holiday Government Shutdown for awhile now (usually not with all of those words), but i’m being completely serious. McConnell had 100 votes to fund the government until Donald said no, and McConnell didn’t want to upset the Trumpist base. This weakness saddens me because Congress is not subservient to the Executive branch. Mitch needs to get in a room with Donald and tell him whats going to happen.

DOLOOP · 2019-01-06T05:34:37.496Z

Thanks for the thread, Safiel.

There should be a Trumpist or two coming along shortly to point out that the Trump shutdown doesn’t have any real affect. We won’t even notice it.

Unless our constitutional protection to a speedy trial is at play. Or our society’s loss when folks get to go free because we refuse to accommodate their right to a speedy trial.

fathom · 2019-01-06T05:44:32.259Z

DOLOOP:

Thanks for the thread, Safiel.

There should be a Trumpist or two coming along shortly to point out that the Trump shutdown doesn’t have any real affect. We won’t even notice it.

Unless our constitutional protection to a speedy trial is at play. Or our society’s loss when folks get to go free because we refuse to accommodate their right to a speedy trial.

It would be fun to see the usual suspects show up in a Safiel thread. He really knows his stuff.

DOLOOP · 2019-01-06T05:52:42.899Z

fathom:

DOLOOP:

Thanks for the thread, Safiel.

There should be a Trumpist or two coming along shortly to point out that the Trump shutdown doesn’t have any real affect. We won’t even notice it.

Unless our constitutional protection to a speedy trial is at play. Or our society’s loss when folks get to go free because we refuse to accommodate their right to a speedy trial.

It would be fun to see the usual suspects show up in a Safiel thread. He really knows his stuff.

I agree. Especially the “He really knows his stuff,” part.

Jezcoe · 2019-01-06T12:07:59.632Z

calirepub:

Safiel:

calirepub:

Safiel:

calirepub:

This sounds VERY interesting. I wonder if this will influence Trump to accept government funding that doesn’t include a wall.

J14 is almost here.

Probably not.

Ironically, civil cases against him are on hold as a result of the shutdown, so this might give him the opposite motivation.

That seems like such a vulgar application of the law. I’m disappointed in Mitch for not bringing the government funding bill to a vote. It would pass by a veto proof majority. Mitch just doesn’t want to make Donald look bad.

I put this 100% on Donald Trump.

McConnell is between a rock and a hard place. He has Senator’s that are beholden to Trump’s nativist base. He is in a no win situation. If Trump stopped with the wall nonsense, this problem would cease to exist.

I agree. I’ve been calling it the Great Trump/McConnell Christmas Holiday Government Shutdown for awhile now (usually not with all of those words), but i’m being completely serious. McConnell had 100 votes to fund the government until Donald said no, and McConnell didn’t want to upset the Trumpist base. This weakness saddens me because Congress is not subservient to the Executive branch. Mitch needs to get in a room with Donald and tell him whats going to happen.

This a million times over.

Kyshia · 2019-01-06T12:10:33.768Z

Yes. In this instance, McConnell has more power than Trump, and he needs to realize it.

By the way, how much longer does he expect to remain in Congress? He’s an old man. He should start sticking up for himself.

ohknow35 · 2019-01-06T13:48:26.430Z

Fortune

The Courts Run Out of Cash Next Friday. Here’s What Happens Then

Companies turning to the federal courts to resolve fights with rivals and customers might be in limbo if the government shutdown continues.

Look at all of the options available.

-“In the past, some courts have suspended civil cases, some have conducted business as usual,” Sellers said. “It’s really a judge-by-judge, court-by-court determination.”

-“I think American companies can handle it for a while, but obviously if this is still going on six months from now it’ll be a very serious situation,” Wheeler said. If the shutdown is protracted, he said, companies may try to resolve disputes in other ways, including arbitration, if possible, taking their cases to the much larger network of state courts, which isn’t affected by the closure.

And a solution is already in pkace.

-Whenever the cash runs out, the courts will begin operating under the Antideficiency Act, the federal law that requires work to continue if it’s necessary “to support the exercise of Article III judicial powers,” or the resolution of cases, under the Constitution.

And finally, we see who the real culprits are once again (people who are blocking judges have slowed things down.

-A loss of funding for civil cases would exacerbate a problem that’s already made it harder for companies to get their day in court, said Russell Wheeler, a visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution and a former deputy director at the Federal Judicial Center in Washington. That problem: 119 judicial vacancies, or about 18 percent of the 677 federal judgeships.

Jezcoe · 2019-01-06T13:50:11.604Z

ohknow35:

Federal Courts Run Out of Cash Next Friday. Here’s What Happens Then | Fortune

Look at all of the options available.

-“In the past, some courts have suspended civil cases, some have conducted business as usual,” Sellers said. “It’s really a judge-by-judge, court-by-court determination.”

-“I think American companies can handle it for a while, but obviously if this is still going on six months from now it’ll be a very serious situation,” Wheeler said. If the shutdown is protracted, he said, companies may try to resolve disputes in other ways, including arbitration, if possible, taking their cases to the much larger network of state courts, which isn’t affected by the closure.

And a solution is already in pkace.

-Whenever the cash runs out, the courts will begin operating under the Antideficiency Act, the federal law that requires work to continue if it’s necessary “to support the exercise of Article III judicial powers,” or the resolution of cases, under the Constitution.

And finally, we see who the real culprits are once again (people who are blocking judges have slowed things down.

-A loss of funding for civil cases would exacerbate a problem that’s already made it harder for companies to get their day in court, said Russell Wheeler, a visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution and a former deputy director at the Federal Judicial Center in Washington. That problem: 119 judicial vacancies, or about 18 percent of the 677 federal judgeships.

I really want you to talk about the people who have been blocking judges and slowing things down.

Please expand upon that.

hindsight · 2019-01-06T13:57:37.008Z

Sombody forget to the Mitch that the Legislature is a seperate brqnch of government?

calirepub · 2019-01-06T14:02:05.451Z

hindsight:

Sombody forget to the Mitch that the Legislature is a seperate brqnch of government?

Can’t criticize the Dear Leader. Trump owns the Republican Party.

biggestal99 · 2019-01-06T14:56:10.611Z

E-verify is down.

Allan

ohknow35 · 2019-01-06T15:48:54.703Z

There you go.

townhall.com – 2 Jan 19

Trump Calls Out Dems for Blocking Judicial Nominations

Jezcoe · 2019-01-06T15:52:05.477Z

ohknow35:

There you go.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2019/01/02/trump-calls-out-dems-for-blocking-judicial-nominations-n2538348

Yes… the President called out the Democrats.

How many Democrat votes are necessary for filling Article III vacancies?

How many vacancies were filled during the previous administration?

Who has the power in the Senate and has had it since 2015?

lulubee · 2019-01-06T16:06:51.075Z

Meh. We don’t need courts or any gubmint.

DOLOOP · 2019-01-06T16:49:49.999Z

lulubee:

Meh. We don’t need courts or any gubmint.

Courts are for liberals.

Camp · 2019-01-06T19:25:18.511Z

Trump would agree 100%

Supporting border agents and security is NOT nonsense to many.

It is the front line of judicial casework.

DaMan · 2019-01-06T19:49:25.470Z

Safiel:

I put this 100% on Donald Trump.

McConnell is between a rock and a hard place. He has Senator’s that are beholden to Trump’s nativist base. He is in a no win situation. If Trump stopped with the wall nonsense, this problem would cease to exist.

This is what you get when senators and parties rule for the president rather than American people

ohknow35 · 2019-01-06T21:00:55.448Z

So it’s your contention that the dimocrats are not doing anything to slow the confirmation process for all of those judicial nominees?? And that each of the nominees could immediately be brought to the floor for a straight up or down vote??

That’s what you believe??

Jezcoe · 2019-01-06T21:55:04.761Z

ohknow35:

So it’s your contention that the dimocrats are not doing anything to slow the confirmation process for all of those judicial nominees?? And that each of the nominees could immediately be brought to the floor for a straight up or down vote??

That’s what you believe??

If your problem is vacancies and slowing things frown, why do those vacancies exist and have existed for so long in the first place?

What the Dems are doing is absolutely nothing to what happened between 2015 and 2017.