The American self loathing movement. Where do you stand?

altair1013 · 2020-08-02T18:14:10.264Z

Toll_Collector:

Oh, you’re describing the cancel culture? It all stems from race issues and no one wants to touch it. People can use it because it gives them a sense of power in their otherwise worthless lives. I’ll just stop here.

So when you’re in a public place and the national anthem is being played do you stand? Or take a knee?

Toll_Collector · 2020-08-02T18:57:30.751Z

altair1013:

I disagree. Race is the tool. They don’t give a rats ass about race. It’s a means to an end. Totalitarian government is the goal.

I agree. Race is the tool. I just worded it poorly.

Toll_Collector · 2020-08-02T18:59:21.705Z

altair1013:

So when you’re in a public place and the national anthem is being played do you stand? Or take a knee?

A better question would be, what does it now mean if you don’t take a knee?

DMK · 2020-08-02T19:09:38.111Z

hindsight:

“You think our country’s so innocent?”

What does that have to do with the OP?

Do you think any country is “innocent”?

Samson_Corwell · 2020-08-02T19:12:32.495Z

altair1013:

There would be no freedom in the world had it not been for us.

This is a quintessential display of snobbish American arrogance. Freedom is a common human desire and plenty of countries have achieved it on their own without our help. Mixed with our good deeds is a lot of bombing of other countries and who’ve disagreed with us.

DMK · 2020-08-02T19:13:09.843Z

mollyBrown:

We cannot leave. Lol. Most countries are closed to us thanks to the bungled handling of Covid.

There will be a vaccine and eventually herd immunity.

You are then free to go where ever you heart leads you (well if you meet the requirements, that is).

DMK · 2020-08-02T19:14:54.355Z

Samson_Corwell:

This is a quintessential display of snobbish American arrogance.

It really isn’t.

AZslim · 2020-08-02T19:15:08.683Z

I’ve never heard of this movement. I looked and looked and couldn’t find any information on it.

I don’t think any such organization exists. Sorry for your luck.

Are they related to the the People’s Front of Judea?

Samson_Corwell · 2020-08-02T19:16:29.829Z

DMK:

Samson_Corwell:

This is a quintessential display of snobbish American arrogance.

It really isn’t.

It really is. We are not responsible for all of the liberation in the world. Revolutions and rebellions in oppressive countries have occurred without our help.

DMK · 2020-08-02T19:21:55.137Z

Samson_Corwell:

We are not responsible for all of the liberation in the world.

Never said we are or were.

Samson_Corwell:

Revolutions and rebellions in oppressive countries have occurred without our help.

Never said they don’t or didn’t.

Samson_Corwell:

This is a quintessential display of snobbish American arrogance.

I disagree.

Smyrna · 2020-08-02T19:26:43.928Z

Samson_Corwell:

This is a quintessential display of snobbish American arrogance. Freedom is a common human desire and plenty of countries have achieved it on their own without our help. Mixed with our good deeds is a lot of bombing of other countries and who’ve disagreed with us.

Achtung!

Samson_Corwell · 2020-08-02T20:07:46.136Z

Smyrna:

Samson_Corwell:

This is a quintessential display of snobbish American arrogance. Freedom is a common human desire and plenty of countries have achieved it on their own without our help. Mixed with our good deeds is a lot of bombing of other countries and who’ve disagreed with us.

Achtung!

Irrelevant.

Samson_Corwell · 2020-08-02T20:11:23.821Z

DMK:

Samson_Corwell:

We are not responsible for all of the liberation in the world.

Never said we are or were.

Samson_Corwell:

Revolutions and rebellions in oppressive countries have occurred without our help.

Never said they don’t or didn’t.

Samson_Corwell:

This is a quintessential display of snobbish American arrogance.

I disagree.

The sentence that I was quoting in the post you replied to said exactly that. I called it arrogant and you challenged that diagnosis. So, your concurrence with me here sends a mixed message.

WuWei · 2020-08-02T21:06:40.195Z

Samson_Corwell:

DMK:

Samson_Corwell:

This is a quintessential display of snobbish American arrogance.

It really isn’t.

It really is. We are not responsible for all of the liberation in the world. Revolutions and rebellions in oppressive countries have occurred without our help.

Where? Stay in the last 80 years please.

Smyrna · 2020-08-02T21:13:14.748Z

Samson_Corwell:

Irrelevant.

If you consider a loss in WWII, that may not be true?

DMK · 2020-08-02T22:11:31.691Z

Samson_Corwell:

The sentence that I was quoting in the post you replied to said exactly that. I called it arrogant and you challenged that diagnosis.

Still stands.

Munimula1 · 2020-08-02T22:15:41.033Z

DMK:

mollyBrown:

We cannot leave. Lol. Most countries are closed to us thanks to the bungled handling of Covid.

There will be a vaccine and eventually herd immunity.

You are then free to go where ever you heart leads you (well if you meet the requirements, that is).

LOL- we wont have to go then.

altair1013 · 2020-08-03T00:53:08.425Z

Toll_Collector:

altair1013:

I disagree. Race is the tool. They don’t give a rats ass about race. It’s a means to an end. Totalitarian government is the goal.

I agree. Race is the tool. I just worded it poorly.

Fair enough. I do it all the time.

altair1013 · 2020-08-03T00:54:33.384Z

Samson_Corwell:

We are not responsible for all of the liberation in the world.

We are not. But without us there would be no liberty in the world.

Samson_Corwell · 2020-08-03T02:57:37.352Z

altair1013:

Samson_Corwell:

We are not responsible for all of the liberation in the world.

We are not. But without us there would be no liberty in the world.

There would be.