The American self loathing movement. Where do you stand?

jcrandall · 2020-08-02T16:54:42.316Z

“There are a lot of killers. You think our country’s so innocent?”

Donald J. Trump -

By OP’s def, that’s straight next-level America hatin’.

altair1013 · 2020-08-02T17:30:03.047Z

jcrandall:

By OP’s def, that’s straight next-level America hatin’.

The Op will tell you his definition if you bother to ask.

Then there is that crazy 1619 project where American hating liberals go back in time and wallow over what the European powers did 400 years ago. Apparently they are revising history. Trying to convince us that the slaver flag of 1619 looked like this.

When it actually looked more like this.

Toll_Collector · 2020-08-02T17:52:51.164Z

altair1013:

Either you see it, or you don’t. Maybe your news sources do not cover such things?

BTW, did you see that they tore down a statue of Teddy Roosevelt?

Oh, you’re describing the cancel culture? It all stems from race issues and no one wants to touch it. People can use it because it gives them a sense of power in their otherwise worthless lives. I’ll just stop here.

altair1013 · 2020-08-02T17:55:05.738Z

Toll_Collector:

altair1013:

Either you see it, or you don’t. Maybe your news sources do not cover such things?

BTW, did you see that they tore down a statue of Teddy Roosevelt?

Oh, you’re describing the cancel culture? It all stems from race issues and no one wants to touch it. People can use it because it gives them a sense of power in their otherwise worthless lives. I’ll just stop here.

I disagree. Race is the tool. They don’t give a rats ass about race. It’s a means to an end. Totalitarian government is the goal.

mollyBrown · 2020-08-02T17:56:42.015Z

ohknow35:

Everyone here should thank their lucky stars, and if they want to kneel for something, they should pray to their gods if they believe, and hope everyone stays safe.

If you don’t love it, leave.

We cannot leave. Lol. Most countries are closed to us thanks to the bungled handling of Covid.

altair1013 · 2020-08-02T17:58:39.856Z

mollyBrown:

We cannot leave. Lol. Most countries are closed to us thanks to the bungled handling of Covid.

Do you want to leave? Nobody else does. But tens of millions are trying to get in. Shouldn’t we warn them not to enter this oppressive, racists country? We are not being fair to our future victims.

altair1013 · 2020-08-02T18:14:10.264Z

Toll_Collector:

Oh, you’re describing the cancel culture? It all stems from race issues and no one wants to touch it. People can use it because it gives them a sense of power in their otherwise worthless lives. I’ll just stop here.

So when you’re in a public place and the national anthem is being played do you stand? Or take a knee?

Toll_Collector · 2020-08-02T18:57:30.751Z

altair1013:

I disagree. Race is the tool. They don’t give a rats ass about race. It’s a means to an end. Totalitarian government is the goal.

I agree. Race is the tool. I just worded it poorly.

Toll_Collector · 2020-08-02T18:59:21.705Z

altair1013:

So when you’re in a public place and the national anthem is being played do you stand? Or take a knee?

A better question would be, what does it now mean if you don’t take a knee?

DMK · 2020-08-02T19:09:38.111Z

hindsight:

“You think our country’s so innocent?”

What does that have to do with the OP?

Do you think any country is “innocent”?

Samson_Corwell · 2020-08-02T19:12:32.495Z

altair1013:

There would be no freedom in the world had it not been for us.

This is a quintessential display of snobbish American arrogance. Freedom is a common human desire and plenty of countries have achieved it on their own without our help. Mixed with our good deeds is a lot of bombing of other countries and who’ve disagreed with us.

DMK · 2020-08-02T19:13:09.843Z

mollyBrown:

We cannot leave. Lol. Most countries are closed to us thanks to the bungled handling of Covid.

There will be a vaccine and eventually herd immunity.

You are then free to go where ever you heart leads you (well if you meet the requirements, that is).

DMK · 2020-08-02T19:14:54.355Z

Samson_Corwell:

This is a quintessential display of snobbish American arrogance.

It really isn’t.

AZslim · 2020-08-02T19:15:08.683Z

I’ve never heard of this movement. I looked and looked and couldn’t find any information on it.

I don’t think any such organization exists. Sorry for your luck.

Are they related to the the People’s Front of Judea?

Samson_Corwell · 2020-08-02T19:16:29.829Z

DMK:

Samson_Corwell:

This is a quintessential display of snobbish American arrogance.

It really isn’t.

It really is. We are not responsible for all of the liberation in the world. Revolutions and rebellions in oppressive countries have occurred without our help.

DMK · 2020-08-02T19:21:55.137Z

Samson_Corwell:

We are not responsible for all of the liberation in the world.

Never said we are or were.

Samson_Corwell:

Revolutions and rebellions in oppressive countries have occurred without our help.

Never said they don’t or didn’t.

Samson_Corwell:

This is a quintessential display of snobbish American arrogance.

I disagree.

Smyrna · 2020-08-02T19:26:43.928Z

Samson_Corwell:

This is a quintessential display of snobbish American arrogance. Freedom is a common human desire and plenty of countries have achieved it on their own without our help. Mixed with our good deeds is a lot of bombing of other countries and who’ve disagreed with us.

Achtung!

Samson_Corwell · 2020-08-02T20:07:46.136Z

Smyrna:

Samson_Corwell:

This is a quintessential display of snobbish American arrogance. Freedom is a common human desire and plenty of countries have achieved it on their own without our help. Mixed with our good deeds is a lot of bombing of other countries and who’ve disagreed with us.

Achtung!

Irrelevant.

Samson_Corwell · 2020-08-02T20:11:23.821Z

DMK:

Samson_Corwell:

We are not responsible for all of the liberation in the world.

Never said we are or were.

Samson_Corwell:

Revolutions and rebellions in oppressive countries have occurred without our help.

Never said they don’t or didn’t.

Samson_Corwell:

This is a quintessential display of snobbish American arrogance.

I disagree.

The sentence that I was quoting in the post you replied to said exactly that. I called it arrogant and you challenged that diagnosis. So, your concurrence with me here sends a mixed message.

WuWei · 2020-08-02T21:06:40.195Z

Samson_Corwell:

DMK:

Samson_Corwell:

This is a quintessential display of snobbish American arrogance.

It really isn’t.

It really is. We are not responsible for all of the liberation in the world. Revolutions and rebellions in oppressive countries have occurred without our help.

Where? Stay in the last 80 years please.