DACA was not considered constitutional. SCOTUS has not ruled on that, they just said Trump could not end it the way he tried… which is about as ignorant a ruling as I have ever seen. If it is unconstitutional, does it matter how he ends it?
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JayJay
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What do you think is happening to state and local tax receipts right now? The problems are of a scale mere taxation can’t do anything about.
And yes…the Feds are shifting around money…so it is robbing Peter to pay Peter back.
It’s blindingly obvious to anyone that is paying a modicum of attention these are empty gestures to try and force a deal.
But without any actual ability to do so.
the $100 seems to me for several reasons.
- shared fiscal pain.
- skin in the game
- some states made some pretty hairbrained decisions on shut downs, its only right they should help pay
- so some idiot liberal state will sue to stop it for the unfunded mandate. nothing wrong with putting the opposition in a box.
the states with huge tax reciept problems are the ones continuing the shutdown when there’s no medical need for it. They should have to pay for their political decisions.
except of course that the meaningless gesture will put money in peoples pockets… so not so meaningless to them. The problem liberals have with this, is they had their narrative all set to go… Trump is keeping you poor, Trump is denying you relief, Trump is blocking our wonderful bill.
ooops, there goes the narrative
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tnt
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Ok, but no states can afford it.
Now what?
of course they can, they’re saving a ton defunding police
Honestly, if Trump forgives the tax later (which is a huge if considering all of the other promises he’s reneged on within a week; Charlie Brown, football…) it will still wind up going back to the employees eventually so not really sure what the big deal is. If my employer was doing this, I’d be grateful. Who doesn’t think this isn’t merely a political stunt by Trump anyway?

Ben_Natuf:
DACA was not considered constitutional. SCOTUS has not ruled on that, they just said Trump could not end it the way he tried… which is about as ignorant a ruling as I have ever seen. If it is unconstitutional, does it matter how he ends
SCOTUS ruled that the Trump admin tried to end The constitutional DACA program illegally.
Allam
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WuWei:
It’s been taken care of.
No it hasnt.
States have to pay not only 25% of the benefit to get the rest, it also says they have to create a entire new program that sits above their current UE program.
Also - The EO also shows that once the money from FEMA general fund reaches 20b and the rest of the CARE money is gone, the program stops.
They did no such thing. They ruled they could end the program but had to jump through a hoop first. They did not opine on its constitutionality.
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about 100 million working Americans.
If you don’t want to be double taxed to pay it back, vote Trump!
They didn’t opine because it was constitutional.
If it was unconstitutional, it would have been instantly shut down by SCOTUS.
It is constitutional and must be shut down in a legal way prescribed by law.
Which was not followed the first time.
Allan
more assumptions from you paraded as facts. So sorry, but no. The SCOTUS has not ruled on the constitutionality of DACA.
The idea that SCOTUS believes an unconstitutional action of the former President needs to be correctly shut down according to an equally unconstitutional APA says a lot about the justices who voted that way. Clearly, an unconstitutional action is anethema to the constitution and void. They seem to have forgotten Marburry en toto and opted for bureaucratic hegomony.
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Ben_Natuf:
more assumptions from you paraded as facts. So sorry, but no. The SCOTUS has not ruled on the constitutionality of DACA.
The idea that SCOTUS believes an unconstitutional action of the former President needs to be correctly shut down according to an equally unconstitutional APA says a lot about the justices who voted that way. Clearly, an unconstitutional action is anethema to the constitution and void. They seem to have forgotten Marburry en toto and opted for bureaucratic hegomony
SCOTUS opined that DACA was constitutional and was not shut down properly by prescribed laws that are in effect.
That DACA is still the law of the land says everything you need to know.
Allan
They did no such thing. They did not opine on its constitutionality and said as much. Your mischaracterization of their opinion does not change the facts.
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WuWei
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tnt:

WuWei:
It’s been taken care of.
How?
(now brown cow)
The President addressed it.