Treat guns the same as the common law practice of cattle trespass. Or the treatment we give owners of known nuisance or danger animals. If guns individually are so little threat, I’m sure insurance against any tort that may be caused by an individual gun would be nominal.
It’s a simple way to manage to the socialists in the gun rights movement. They want to privatize all the benefit and socialize all the cost.
It is still an accident. This kid stole his dad’s guns with the intent of shooting up his school. There is no intent to drive school bus off road with dad’s stolen car. But there is intent to shoot up school with dad’s stolen gun. Unless you believe that was an accident.
That’s not what I was talking about regarding intent. It pertains to the stolen car keys and killing some one accidentally argument compared to stealing guns out of the safe and intentionally killing some one. Of course they don’t intend. My God I’ve been making this argument for two days now. I never once even intimated that intent had to do with parents having any thing to do with their kids intent.
Yes, that’s right, intent matters to the law, but it does not matter to the victims. You want to place legal responsibility on parents for keeping their guns out of the hands of their kids who may use them (with intent or by accident) to kill people, but you do not want to place the same responsibility on parents for keeping their car secure from being taken without permission by their kids who may use it to kill people because, you say, the intent to kill is not there. What I am saying is that it does not matter what the intent is if people are killed and/or injured as a result of the parents neglect to secure those items from their kids, the responsibility is the same, so if you are going to criminalize the former regarding guns, you should also criminalize the latter regarding cars.
Just because the kid took the guns does not mean they were not properly stored. Remember, the Sandy Hook school shooter killed his mother so that he could get the guns out of her safe that was located in her bedroom. If this kid’s dad kept them in a gun safe in the basement or the garage, he wouldn’t have to kill his dad to get them without his dad knowing.
And before you go off half cocked about the kid shouldn’t have had access to the key or the combination, any kid knows where their parents keep such things as key and combinations.