if the voters are good with it. the authority rests with the states. just as with covid, if ny wanrs to mandate idiocy, i don’t care. i don’t live there.
And you just keep walking into to🤣
There is no “trade barrier” people in Portland are still free to travel to Texas and buy goods and services from Texas. The Portland City Council simply says their taxpayer budget will not fund them. People are still free to trade all they want.
No trade was banned. People are still free to trade all they want.
You made the claim they can’t. So under A1, S8, C3 of the Constitution you would have to show where Congress made a law or SCOTUS made a ruling to support your case. Without such justification, then under the 10th Amendment jurisdictions are free to place restrictions on how their money is spent.
Please provide that substantiation. Thank you.
WW
you continue with the dishonest obfuscation stating “people” are free to trade. people can do whatever they want, niether the state nor any part of the state has power to restrict trade to or from another state. zero, zip, zilch, nada.
that leftist states started doing it, and OK returned the “favor” does not mean it can be done, simply that idiots are doing so and in doing so usurping the authority that was surrendered to the federal government. if anyone actually challenged these stupid bans they would be quickly struck down.
that you fail to either see or acknowledge that these are trade restrictions directed at other states, and therefore barriers says a lot about you and how much you allow politics to inform your legal “opinions”. sad man, really sad. And again, if they don’t want to buy there or travel there, then don’t, but you can’t codify it. that is the definition of a barrier.
Were is your support for your position. What law or SCOTUS decision bars local jurisdictions from determining how local taxpayer dollars are spent in the acquisition of travel and out of state goods.
My opinions are not based on politics, they are based on the law. A1,S8,C3 allows Congress to create laws governing interstate commerce, in the absence of such a law local jurisdictions are free to create such laws as the local government sees fit as long as it doesn’t conflict with state or federal law and those actions are protected under the 10th Amendment or until Congress acts. Which to my knowledge they have not done. The other avenue is a SCOTUS ruling based on either a violation of a law (which must exist) or a violation of the Constitution. So if you think the SCOTUS has ruled on this, feel free to provide a case cite.
Other than that, you are free to have you opinion, which based on reality isn’t applicable while my opinion is actually the current state of affairs. Barring a violation of state or federal law (which you have not shown is happening) or a SCOTUS decision (which again you have provided no support for) - Portland is free to determine how tax dollars are spent in their jurisdiction.
California, Oklahoma, and now Portland are doing it - so ya it can be done and is valid until such time as things change. When will Congress act? What case is working it’s way to the SCOTUS?
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Guvnah
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Watching this exchange, I just keep thinking that it’s not worth fighting about.
To me, the move by Portland is just more of the same division in this nation. Blue/Red. Conservative/Lib. Pro-abortion/anti-abortion. Pro-CRT/Anti-CRT. The battle lines and the warring parties heavily overlap on issue after issue. We’re becoming two nations in one. We’re morphing into our own “two-state solution.” It’s sad. It’s unhealthy.
And it will not end well.
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interesting
what makes one human life more valuable than any other?
Why not just tell us what that difference is yourself? Why do you value a 18 year old human more than a 6 week old embryo?
There are as many answers to that as there are people and it likely changes daily.
JayJay
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Think about how you just asked a question based on something I didn’t say.
Then unask your question and ask one based on what I did say.
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is this question rhetorical, or was it actually meant for me?
should be easy to answer then
go ahead
youre claiming it’s a myth that people value all human life the same
true or false?
yes, i did
with so many answers, should be easy
so, go ahead. pick a couple. please
It’s not easy and I’m not playing your game
so “many answers” yet you refuse, or are unable, to give one
the only game i’m playing is asking you a simple question
what game are you playing, by indicating there are so many answers…
(around 7 billion answers evidently)
…but you cant give any?
seems more like you know this argument would crash and burn if you tried it
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There is no argument.
Every person has their own answer, you included.
a human life is no more or less valuable than another
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Not in the big picture perhaps, but if your wife and a stranger were drowning and you could only save one, who’s it gonna be?
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