Texas bans abortion

[Samm]

@FlameHeart

I’m surprised and kind of proud I didn’t become unhinged this time. Progress.

It’s not over; there is still time.

[PurpnGold]

@Guvnah

@PurpnGold

yet I never see a prolifer try to figure out why more than half of all “conceptions” don’t make it to the next stage of human development.

This is yet another stupid statement from you.

Not stupid, you just can’t answer it. Why doesn’t someone who is pro-life advocate for solving the issue of around 80% of all conceptions don’t make it to the next stage in human development? You do not really care about the life of a zygote… prolifers only care about the stage in human develop where a heart beat exists.

@Guvnah

@PurpnGold

And if you want to use “life begins at conception” as a basis for legal precedent, then you would have to convict every woman who has a miscarriage with at least involuntary manslaughter.

And this one takes the cake.

What is wrong with you?

When should a woman or doctor be punished for an abortion? After conception? Heartbeat? Brain function? Viability?

If you do not want to punish anyone for an abortion, then there is no point in laws being put in place to prevent it.

[PurpnGold]

@Guvnah

@tnt

Google and biology tells me these things are living organisms:

Sperm
Egg

That’s a deliberate lie.

Life must start from life (Scientifically speaking). Sperm and Egg are alive…

But they are not scientifically considered a “human life” yet.

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

In the sense that we are talking, sperm is not alive. It has no capacity for growth, reproduction or functional activity beyond mobility.

What does it mean to be “alive”?

Sperm is a life…

[Samm]

@Orygun

This all comes down to the age old question of when life begins. If it’s at conception then even the morning after pill would be considered abortion and murder. Do those of you who believe life begins at birth believe the morning after pill is murder?

Or is it later? two weeks? 6 weeks? 12? 24?

Technically … scientifically … at the moment the zygote implants in the uterus and begins to grow. It is that initial cell division that indicates that it is living.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@conan

So are you going to high tail it?

I answered your question…now answer mine.

Planned parenthood should be federally/state funded to some extent.

Why?
…

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@conan

I do…what part about I don’t want a single penny…not even a ■■■■■■■ chip off that penny going to abortion.

You don’t want abortion regardless of its funding source. So why use federal funding as a reason?

@conan

Don’t deflect…Answer my question.

Well technically a fetus is unborn. So how can I hold it?

So … if you suck a 12 week old fetus out of a womb, does it become a baby?

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

Technically … scientifically … at the moment the zygote implants in the uterus and begins to grow. It is that initial cell division that indicates that it is living.

Then why is 6 weeks the bar for prolifers?

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

@PurpnGold

Planned parenthood should be federally/state funded to some extent.

Why?
…

If we want to lower abortions, then providing the ability for low-income women and men to get contraception is a good thing.

[Samm]

@tnt

@thinkingman

because if there is no fertilization no human being results

A sperm has life.

An egg has life.

Why does it take their union to begin life?

No. They are living cells, but they do not have life until they join and become a zygote, thereby acquiring the ability to grow and subsequently develop into whatever organism its DNA destines for it to become … in this case, a full fledged human being.

[Samm]

@tnt

@FlameHeart

*embryo.

Technically, an organism at the stage of zygote would survive just fine w/o a womb. Until it gets too big to not need nutrients.

the claim was made that life begins at conception.

At conception that is a zygote.

Can a zygote survive outside a womb?

Yes. They are kept viable for years outside the womb routinely.

[Samm]

@tnt

Then why is a zygote more precious than the head of lettuce you killed for your salad?

Because a head of lettuce does not have the potential to do anything other than to become more lettuce.

[Samm]

@hwyflier

@TheRedComet

It’s pretty pathetic that the guy doesn’t get any kind of say in the matter. We have to accept that decision even though it’s just as much our child as it is theirs.

That may not be a popular thing to say, but it’s the truth.

Ejaculating sperm does not confer ownership.

You’re on the right track. Receiving sperm doesn’t either. The life they create has no owner.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@Samm

Do amoeba have a conscious experience?

Not a human conscious experience

Are amoeba conscious? If not why are they considered to be alive?

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

Oh love the shock value… now show an aborted zygote.

The picture was in direct rebuttal of the post I replied to.

But yes, it is shocking. I’m glad you admit that

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

Are amoeba conscious? If not why are they considered to be alive?

Sperm is alive…skin cells are alive. Neither have human consciousness.

When do we consider someone dead? When their cells die? Or when they lose consciousness forever (no brain and/or heart function)

[Samm]

@Guvnah

@tnt

Google and biology tells me these things are living organisms:

Sperm
Egg

That’s a deliberate lie.

It’s integral to the dehumanizing process.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@Samm

In the sense that we are talking, sperm is not alive. It has no capacity for growth, reproduction or functional activity beyond mobility.

What does it mean to be “alive”?

Sperm is a life…

You are conflating alive with life. In order to have life, it must be able to replicate.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@Samm

Technically … scientifically … at the moment the zygote implants in the uterus and begins to grow. It is that initial cell division that indicates that it is living.

Then why is 6 weeks the bar for prolifers?

Heartbeat. It may not be scientific, but its a clear indicator of life.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@Samm

@PurpnGold

Planned parenthood should be federally/state funded to some extent.

Why?
…

If we want to lower abortions, then providing the ability for low-income women and men to get contraception is a good thing.

Public Health Agencies already do that. But I have no problem with PP doing that too. You are absolutely correct, the best way to lower abortions is to prevent them. Well, by that and by educating people as to what an abortion really is.