What? Are saying taxation is some kind of forced labor because someone might have labored to receive income?
I don’t need to be lectured on what capitalism is. Your opinion is fine but I don’t share it. We have a place where words are defined and this fits what I want just fine.
capitalism noun
cap·i·tal·ism | \ ˈka-pə-tə-ˌliz-əm , ˈkap-tə-
Definition of capitalism
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market
Yes. That’s EXACTLY what it is. We will tolerate a certain amount for infrastructure, police, fire and defense but when you take 40% of what I earn and pass it out to others that didn’t earn it, you have enslaved me. I find it funny that Democrats haven’t given up on their dreams of slavery.
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The 16th need to be abolished but it never will be. FAR too much control is gained by having it in place. They effectively wiped out the 4th Amendment with that piece of garbage.
I’m not lecturing you. I simply laid out some facts. It is a mistake to refer to our system as capitalism. Capitalism is part of the activities which take place in our free market, free enterprise system. Socialists and our domestic enemies love to avoid referring to our system as free enterprise, or a free market system . . . to avoid appearing they are attacking freedom.
I am not your enemy.
JWK
”Agriculture, manufactures, commerce, and navigation, the four pillars of our prosperity, are the most thriving when left most free to individual enterprise.” Thomas Jefferson’s First Annual Message to Congress
Keep in mind the 16th Amendment never repealed the requirement that “direct taxes” if laid by our federal government, require an apportionment among the states, and each state’s share of a total being collected under any direct tax is to be proportionately equal to its representation in Congress.
Here is a LINK to the first direct tax laid by Congress and it shows each state’s share of a two million tax being raised by Congress.
Keep in mind socialists and our domestic enemies detest Representation with a proportional financial obligation whenever a direct tax is laid.
JWK
“No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.”
Are you saying taxes aren’t forced upon people? There’s no penalty for not paying them? What is that penalty? Jail? How do people pay their taxes? By labor? So let’s see…. 
Golly this is a toughie…
So, homeless people being forced to work to receive tax payer provided food, housing and services is slavery but middle class workers being forced to pay taxes ( which is paid for by their labor) and provide free stuff to those same homeless people isn’t slavery?
Pray tell, what is the difference?’
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Last time I checked, I think more than forty states charge inmates for their room and board.
How dare prisons are allowed to practice slavery in almost every state in the Union. Oh wait, that isn’t slavery at all, it’s called pay-to-stay.
JWK
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…says the white guy, who is only a few years older than me.
Well, since you appear to disagree, upon what basis do you arrive at your conclusion?
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, has finally GONE RAVING MAD
No amount of molestation of the English language can make that true. How about we throw you into one of those labor camps in Xinjiang so you can learn the difference?
Oh, so they’ll release the inmates if they don’t pay? Cool!
Looks like you lack reading comprehension. The conversation was about arresting homeless people who AREN’T on welfare to house them and making them work chain gangs to pay for their housing, NOT about work requirements for welfare for people who opt to use welfare. So what is the point of this gotcha?
I’ve been following the conversation just fine. You’re the one who likes to bring up slavery continually. It has been suggested by your side that housing ought to be built and provided at tax payer expense to house the homeless. It has been suggested by our side that the homeless be made to work to pay for this which you claim is slavery.
If both sides claim to be interested in solving the problem then first there needs to be an understanding that many of the homeless do not want help and so they will continue to be a burden on society. You say they aren’t on welfare? Ok, technically they aren’t receiving a monthly check. But do you think it doesn’t cost a lot for the cities they wander around in to pay for them ?? Who cleans up the messes they make? Who cleans up the public places they use as their toilets, who cleans up the drug paraphernalia they leave lying around? Again, YOUR SIDE claims it’s cheaper to simply provide them housing at tax payer expense. That has NEVER worked. I challenge you to give an example where poor people on government assistance have been given a complex to move into, haven’t destroyed it very quickly. You guys simply refuse to acknowledge that giving people free stuff does not incentivize them to improve their lives! This is a fact! Unless or until any individual owns their life and the decisions they make and decide to improve their lives, they will remain homeless and poor. The government can not fix this.
The ideal solution would be to find a way to help those who DO want help who are willing to be a productive member of society and do their part to get themselves on their feet. There already are programs that exist to do this, but how do people find them?
As I pointed out, there are many legitimate reasons that homeless people can be detained and monitored, whether in a camp or some form of housing. The ones who want help can quickly be identified and helped and directed to the resources to help them further. As someone else pointed out, many who initially do not want help may decide to begin making better choices if they realize the alternatives is detention.
No gotcha… it’s an observable fact that Democrats run most big cities and most of them have been turned into ■■■■ holes full of more and more homeless people. And Lib idiots keep putting people like Nancy Pelosi and Lori Lightfoot back in office. It ain’t working dude!! It’s time to try something different and making people pay for their own food and shelter and whatever else they need or want in life isn’t slavery. It’s common sense AND right and fair to everyone in society that DOES work and pay.
Nobody is entitled to anything that they don’t earn and confiscating from those who do and redistributing to those who don’t is immoral no matter what you call it…
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THIS is where it started:
So, the above says: If a person is homeless, throw them in jail and then force them to work to pay for the amenities provided by the prison that they were thrown into for being homeless.
So, yes, forced labor is involved in this discussion and, yes, you do lack reading comprehension.
Getting back to the OP the bottom line is TN is not going to allow the homeless to turn our green and clean parks into a literal ■■■■ hole like much of SF.
Folks that disapprove need to get over themselves.
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Someone who is unable to get a home, for whatever reason, or maybe doesn’t want a home, is then guilty of the crime of having to exist somewhere. No. You provided no good reasons to round up poor people and put them into camps or detainment centers. Keeping them out of private places like houses and hotels is fine, but no one gets to be an entitled schmuck that wants them swept out of society.
Oooo. Let’s try that with healthcare coverage and see how conservatives like that.
I love getting this question begging nonsense, if only because it’s fun to pick it apart. “Earn” begs the question on who is entitled to what and is exactly what your political opponents may be challenging you on. You can’t use it as a premise when your notion of what constitutes earning/entitlement is actually the conclusion you are trying to defend.
There is no attempted “gotcha”. Paranoia may be getting the best of you, or, your reading skills may be lacking. The conversation has evolved into a number of specifics related to the “homeless”. Try paying attention.
JWK
Today’s Democrat Party Leadership is infested with Authoritarian Revolutionaries, the same kind that took over Cuba and now rule over the people with an iron fist!
My goodness. Did you not associate requiring inmates in jail to pay for their room and board as “slavery”?
JWK
Our authoritarian revolutionaries are known for accusing others of what they themselves are guilty of.
