You mean the $150B that was Iran’s own money?

What are you talking about? There’s a lack of understanding of post war land division and trust territory. I can point you to a reference if you’d like.

Despite all that, the 167 inhabitants of Bikini Atoll volunteered to be relocated. Google King Juda.

How much do they owe us?

Iran? Dunno, ask Trump, ask other politicians who are in charge.
I doubt anything, really.

Ah, here it is; $151B

Sounds like the dems are having withdraws. They need to give tyrants billions every few years and call it progress towards peace.

"Would you prefer to be relocated before we drop a nuclear bomb on your Islands? or stay and watch the fireworks? " Of course, they volunteered to go somewhere else.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://amp.theguardian.com/travel/2002/aug/06/travelnews.nuclearindustry.environment&ved=2ahUKEwjF17yUutrjAhXWgUsFHdxrDN4QFjARegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw0AvOiwsxCSgD_OHr0Q8QqV&ampcf=1&cshid=1564414582246

The only hindrance for the US and its grand experiments was the small band of 167 Bikini islanders. Commodore Ben H Wyatt, the military governor of the Marshall Islands - to which Bikini belongs - travelled to Bikini to address this very dilemma in February 1946. On a quiet Sunday after church, he assembled the Bikinians to ask if they would be willing to leave their atoll temporarily so that the US could begin testing atomic bombs for “the good of mankind and to end all world wars”. King Juda, then the leader of the Bikinians, after long deliberations among his people, stood before the American delegation and replied, “We will go believing that everything is in the hands of God.”

While the Bikinians were getting ready for their exodus, preparations for the Operation Crossroads nuclear testing programme advanced rapidly. Some 242 ships, 156 aircraft, 25,000 radiation recording devices and the Navy’s 5,400 experimental rats, goats and pigs soon began to arrive for the tests. More than 42,000 US military and civilian personnel were involved in the testing programme at Bikini.

In March 1946, to make way for the tests, the Bikinians were sent 125 miles eastward across the ocean on a US navy landing craft to the uninhabited, sparsely vegetated Rongerik Atoll. The administration left the Bikinians food for several weeks, but they soon discovered that the coconut trees and other local food crops produced very few fruits when compared to the yield of the trees on Bikini, and the fish in the lagoon were uneatable: the islanders began to starve. Within two months of their arrival they began to beg US officials to move them back to Bikini.

In March 1948, when it was finally understood by US officials that the people on Rongerik were in danger of dying from lack of food, the Bikinians were transported to Kwajalein Atoll where they were housed in tents beside the massive cement airstrip used by the US military. In November 1948, after six months on Kwajalein, the now 184 Bikinians set sail once again. This time the destination was Kili Island, their third community relocation in two years. Kili is a single island with no lagoon and is surrounded by rough seas for most of the year. The Bikinians quickly found life on Kili very difficult as their lagoon-based culture essentially became obsolete; again, they began to starve because of the poor fishing and lack of locally grown food on the island.

While the islanders struggled to cope with their exile, Bikini was in the process of being destroyed. In January 1954, the air force and army began preparations for Operation Castle. This was a series of tests that would include the first air-deliverable, and the most powerful hydrogen bomb ever detonated by the US [the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not hydrogen bombs], codenamed Bravo.

Early in the morning on March 1 1954, the Bravo hydrogen bomb was detonated on the surface of the reef in the northwestern corner of Bikini Atoll. Millions of tons of sand, coral, plant and sea life from three islands, the reef and the surrounding lagoon waters were sent miles into the air by the blast. On Rongelap Atoll (located about 125 miles east of Bikini), white, snow-like ash began to fall from the sky three to four hours after the blast onto the 64 people living there and also onto the 18 people living on Ailinginae Atoll.

Children played in the fallout and as night came they began to show the physical signs of radiation exposure. They experienced severe vomiting and diarrhoea, their hair began to fall out, the island fell into a state of panic. Only days later were they moved to Kwajalein Atoll for medical care. Bravo was a thousand times more powerful than the atomic bombs that were dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Aerial photos of Bikini now show the greatest physical scar left over from the nuclear testing period: where there had once been islands and reef there is now a gaping, blue, sea-filled crater a mile wide and 200ft deep.

After 23 detonations, the nuclear testing on Bikini ended in 1958.

Back on Kili Island, life for the Bikinians had become a battle for survival. When the circumstances presented themselves, the islanders complained bitterly to any US government official who would listen, reminding these officials about the broken US promise that their people would be taken care of as long as they were away from their homeland. In 1967, US government agencies finally began considering the possibility of returning the Bikinian people to their islands based on what they knew of radiation levels on Bikini Atoll from the US scientific community.

Approximately 150 people resettled Bikini in the early 1970s. By September of 1978, however, the Bikinians’ dreams of living on their home islands came to an end. It was then that Trust Territory officials arrived on Bikini to again evacuate the people who were living on the atoll because they had discovered that the radioactive element most prevalent on Bikini, cesium 137, had travelled through the food chain and into the bodies of the islanders. US Department of Interior officials called the huge increases in the islanders’ levels of cesium “Incredible”…

Where’s that quote from? Or are you making it up? Care to share this ultimatum you think was given?

Could you please come back to the forum when there is a Democrat in the WH and tell us if you still hold the same views. I’ve never heard Republicans rationalize the actions of N.K. before trump was in the WH. It’s quite a transformation. One may say Republicans have fundamentally changed.

I was being sarcastic… Did the Bikinian have any real choice. It was fortunate for the US that the Bikinians believed the US was going to stop all wars and that God is sovereign. But the US lied to the Bikinians to use their islands as a test site, betrayed the Bikinians’ trust, and ultimately never paid them the compensation they were allotted by the same UN who had arrogated authority to themselves to give the islands to the US to “protect”. So the UN had authority to override the Bikinians and their neighbours’ land rights in favour of the US, but did not have authority to impose the penalty on the US for failing the people they were tasked with protecting.

Globalists are authoritarians who have arrogated to themselves an authority to which they have no actual right. They will not be satisfied until the whole world is under their dystopian nightmare.

"The only hindrance for the US and its grand experiments was the small band of 167 Bikini islanders. Commodore Ben H Wyatt, the military governor of the Marshall Islands - to which Bikini belongs - travelled to Bikini to address this very dilemma in February 1946. On a quiet Sunday after church, he assembled the Bikinians to ask if they would be willing to leave their atoll temporarily so that the US could begin testing atomic bombs for “the good of mankind and to end all world wars”. King Juda, then the leader of the Bikinians, after long deliberations among his people, stood before the American delegation and replied, “We will go believing that everything is in the hands of God.”

Do you really think that “some 242 ships, 156 aircraft, 25,000 radiation recording devices and the Navy’s 5,400 experimental rats, goats and pigs soon began to arrive for the tests. More than 42,000 US military and civilian personnel …involved in the testing programme at Bikini” would have gone somewhere else if the Bikinians had said, “No. We want to stay in our ancestral home” ?

He’ll have to move the goal posts to a different atoll now. Nothing left here to plant them in.

Your globalist compassion and sense of justice is in full view.

Just like your moving of the goal posts. It’s all in full view.

It’s gotten to the point that if a “lib” says the sky is blue, they’ll find some reason to tell them they’re wrong. If a “lib” told them they have a nice family, they’d badmouth their own mother just to make it look like they’re right and the “lib” is wrong.

They abandon their own ideals to make someone else look bad.

Silly, isn’t it?

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There’s a word to describe what you are doing in that post. It’s “transference”.

Transference describes a situation where the feelings, desires, and expectations of one person are redirected and applied to another person. Most commonly, transference refers to a therapeutic setting, where a person in therapy may apply certain feelings or emotions toward the therapist.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=2ahUKEwjAq5SQ6NvjAhVaf30KHaXpAFYQFjACegQIDhAH&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.goodtherapy.org%2Fblog%2Fpsychpedia%2Ftransference&usg=AOvVaw3ROZigX4IX9Ni0jnEaIfjJ

Nah. That’s a thing you people relish in.

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According to a knowledgeable poster here I’ve learned that what you’re doing is “projecting” (the definition has been provided elsewhere).

That’s where someone projects their own ‘transference’ onto another poster. Kind of a sophisticated version of moving the goal posts.

You’re trying to use big words to say “no I’m not, you are.” I assume with the hopes of making a grade school recess comeback sound sophisticated. It’s not hard to differentiate a psychological phenomenon from flailing on a message board.

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Fat donald hasn’t achieved diddly squat with N. Korea.
I guess the love letters aren’t working.

https://twitter.com/ap/status/1157041836168568850?s=21

3rd time?

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