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Then how do we know they need equity?

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The reason I asked is because of population share. Your nation’s population is much closer to Latinos (although shrinking), even including immigrants to bolster the numbers.

Your nation is not nor ever will be anywhere near the majority percentage of whites.

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We know how they are performing 55 years after the race started for them. But they are still 100+ years behind.

Yes despite starting the race later. Says more about my ambition than anything.

For how long, under the same circumstances as black people?

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Based on what as compared to what?

When did your race start? Are you saying the members of your nation failing is due to a lack of ambition?

Black people are racially oppressing Asians today. And violently.

When were you racially oppressed?

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Bezos uses his unearned cap gains as leverage in ways people with lesser portfolios cannot to drastically reduce his taxes.

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Leverage on whom?

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They aren’t. That’s a myth.

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When the race started. Let’s use 1783.

It doesn’t matter. Race based oppression was based on the collective.

Ambition, environment, opportunity many things.

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:rofl: Sure, sure. Turn a blind eye to it. Put your fingers in your ears. Like you always do.

I can tell by your posts you know a lot more truths than your bias will admit. That heavy an investment has to be tough to set aside for the truth.

Could it be that racism is not the cause for the black nation’s current outcomes and that it’s time to let race-based affirmative action go? Could it be the crutch is keeping the black nation limping? Maybe we could ask Derek Bell and the nuns from the convent in Wisconsin?

Have you ever considered that maybe 19.9% poverty is the best that 10% of the population can do? Maybe not because of the color of their skin but rather their culture being in compatible with that of the majority?

It seems like you might be trying to use white man’s metrics to determine success for the black nation, is that fair? Is it the right way?

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My race certainly didn’t start in 1783. I’m old but…

But the outcome is not?

So yes on ambition.

Am I supposed to create environment and opportunity for anybody but me and mine?

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Who’s doing it?

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90% of hate crimes against Asians is done by white people. I asked you for a different study and you declined.

Again, that’s the problem with race based oppression in this country. You don’t know what would have been if it didn’t exist.

See above.

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I didn’t say you were personally oppressing anyone. You asked when THE race started. When my race started is irrelevant in contrast with the previous 200 years.

Of course it is… you keep going back to your personal contributions (or lack there of) to race based oppression. I am talking about the historical implementation.

That’s not what happened in America. America started the race and put black people in shackles 50m behind the starting line.

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White males, mostly

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Even if that were true today, Asians are more successful than white people in this country. Were/are Latino more or less oppressed than Asians in this country?

What are you using to measure what it is?

We have a good idea. We can look at the places where the black race has hegemony and has for a long time.

You seem to think that the black nation is trapped in some sort of time warp in this country. That your great grandfather having or not having something has somehow held you back.

There are very, very few filthy rich old money people here. People float in and out of economic classes here relatively frequently. I have been in several over the course of the 50 years I’ve been in the work force.

You’re successful. What tangible assets did you inherit from pre-1976 that contributed to your success?

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Not true, but…

Yet Asians are out performing whites in the white’s own metrics. And the courts had to lie to keep them out of Harvard in favor of blacks and Latinos.

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You are just pointing out the relative mediocrity of your avg white person. How do you control everything, build the system, and still lose to Asians?

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It is true and you have failed to provide data showing otherwise

See my other post :rofl:

Not a winning argument

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Your race start date is irrelevant to you? Dude, you are not your great grandfather, and neither is anybody else.

Are you oppressed based on your race, yes or no?

You never had shackles on. You’re standing in the track, pointing at somebody else’s shackles and refusing to run in the next heat.

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I don’t disagree, how about the even more relative not even mediocrity of your average black person then?