A vaccine will still help keep the caseload down, and out of all the millions of cases there have been, to only have one confirmed re-infection (although there are a few more suspected ones in the US I believe) after 8-12 months points to us possibly having to manage it yearly like we do the flu.

Which might not be a bad thing if the vaccine is effective and there is still some herd immunity.

Interestingly, they confirmed this re-infection because the strain the Hing Kong man had in April was different from the one he had in August. And…the April strain actually caused him to get COVID- with the August strain he is currently asymptomatic.

So it is possible what some are suspecting…the newer strain is more infectious, but weaker and causes a lesser illness.

Yeah, I agreed with that.

Orrr 2,948 people died for some other reason.

South Dakota has done no shutdowns whatsoever.

Cases per 100K is up there with 1,278, but deaths per 100K is only 18.

Interesting data.

I have said on here many times, I would wait before judging Sweden’s system to harshly. They are already saying that it looks like herd immunity is now lower to gain than thought maybe around 30% and that people like me who have been infected will have long term immunity from the virus. How long - they don’t know, but if a viable vaccine doesn’t hit the shelves countries like Sweden might not look so stupid after all.

I don’t know why it 2x posted, esp. so far apart.

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NO…they died of COVID. No other reasons.

Then we wear masks forever because we’re like children hiding behind skirts. Sports are indefinitely canceled unless played under a bubble for the foreseeable future. Concerts, theatres, large gatherings of any kind are canceled forever until we grow a spine.

I didn’t make any comment about them not suffering, nor am I making any judgments regarding that either. Regarding the calculation, I prefer using the total population since the only true way to do it would be to test the entire population and to attain the most accurate confirmed cases. Also there’s evidence that some segment of the population is immune to the virus. Also using the entire population gives an assessment of all precautions used along with treatments.

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Have you ever been to North Dakota? It is largely due to the spread out nature of the state. There is Fargo and Grand Forks, and Bismark…the only towns with major air travel. Everything is largely spread out. I would imagine that transmission of serious illness is far apart.

They don’t have a mask mandate, but my future son in law is in school there at UND and he works at a hardware store…he has to wear a mask as mandated by the owner. Most businesses there he said do require masks. He also left in March to go on spring break, and he found out that after he left, any college student who left the state would not be allowed back. He was out of state from March 20th to Just about three weeks ago. He couldn’t even go back to get his truck. They had to have it shipped home to him. So there are things being done to mitigate infections and deaths.

We could all wear hazmat suits :sunglasses:

With COVID. And you know it. But even if it were of COVID, it doesn’t mean it was because they didn’t shut down.

Your death rate is the number of people who belong to a certain group…you could look at the entire worlds population and come up with a figure of people who died and it would be thousandths of a percent or smaller…but to know what the death rate of a given event, disease, you have to use the number of people who are part of the group of people who have that disease. Otherwise it doesn’t give you an accurate representation of the the mortality rate of this disease. You can’t include people who don’t have COVID in the mortality rate for the DISEASE COVID. That is an inaccurate way of doing things.

I said South Dakota.

I’m sure it’s much the same…they did have an issue in the meat packing plants.

Still…lots of cases…few deaths.

I got you…And yes…it doesn’t necessarily mean it was because they didn’t shut down…but you also can’t say cases are dropping necessarily because they didn’t. There are ten milllion people in Sweden. They have over 86,000 cases…You may only be able to say that they have maybe approached herd immunity only in the populations centers. There are only a few. The rest of the population is spread out over the country side.

Bayfield County Wisconsin. A county with just over 15,000 people. There are two population centers in the county, the accounting for maybe 3 or 4 thousand people combined. The rest of them are spread out across a large land area. They have had 20 cases since March, and I think 1 death. Are they at heard immunity? Have they done anything different to have so few cases? NO…they live in pods of 300 to 500 people tens of miles apart.

My bad…i hear Dakota and automatically think North. Lol

The Dakotas have selenium-rich soil.

Sweden didn’t kill anyone. A virus that originated in China did.

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then everyone will never stop getting it

Yeah…ya got me…my whole argument here is now quashed.:grin: