Supreme Court rules in favor of Petitioner Masterpiece Cakeshop

[Guvnah]

@party-free

You “addressed it” in that you failed to rebut it.

Of course I did.

You just don’t like the answer.

Too bad for you, I guess.

[Guvnah]

@party-free

Neither Grim nor I are libs.

All libs say that.

I would too. It’s damned embarrassing to be one.

[party-free]

@Guvnah

… by your definitions.

Good thing you don’t get to define that for him.

By the definition of the word “consistently.” Words have meanings.

@Guvnah

And … ??

Why demand that he participate in celebrating it if he considers it a sin?

He wouldn’t be participating.

@Guvnah

Nope. but being a carpenter, do you think he would have built a new bed for the prostitute? He didn’t turn away the sinners, but he NEVER celebrated (nor even condoned) their sins.

But he also didn’t turn them away when they came to him for something, or even when they didn’t. And we’re supposed to follow that example. Gay baker is a buffet Christian. There are too many of those these days.

I grew up in the Mormon church, and they’re some of the worst.

[party-free]

@Guvnah

All libs say that.

I would too. It’s damned embarrassing to be one.

And all rabid, partisan cons just go “hur hur lib lib lib.” Just like you’re now doing.

And the only (D) I’ve ever voted for in my life was a House candidate that got the NRA endorsement. And all those libs who are against abortion, and don’t believe in more gun regulations, and all those libs who own guns themselves.

You’re one of “them” now. “Lib lib lib lib.” It’[s like a disease infecting right-wingers lately.

[Guvnah]

@party-free

He wouldn’t be participating.

By his faith tenets he would be.

You don’t get to define that for him.

[Guvnah]

@party-free

But he also didn’t turn them away when they came to him for something, or even when they didn’t.

And the baker didn’t turn the gay customers away for other business. The baker just wouldn’t participate in the celebration of sin.

Christ wouldn’t have either.

[Guvnah]

@party-free

And all rabid, partisan cons just go “hur hur lib lib lib.”

How endearing.

You’re just butthurt.

I can’t change that for you.

[WildRose]

I’m pretty sure the First Amendment supersedes any state law.

[WildRose]

Nothing in the bible justifies racial discrimination and certainly nothing in the NT.

[party-free]

@Guvnah

How endearing.

You’re just butthurt.

I can’t change that for you.

Butthurt about what? Your little partisan tantrum? No, I’m rolling my eyes that you’ve become just another right-wing Trump drone.

[party-free]

@WildRose

Nothing in the bible justifies racial discrimination and certainly nothing in the NT.

Nothing in the Bible justifies not baking a cake for a sinner. It really says the opposite of that.

But there’s the problem-buffet religious believers picking and choosing to interpret their volume of doctrine as it pleases them.

[WildRose]

No it doesn’t and we are free to express our beliefs under the First Amendment. Nothing in our constitution says we have to give up our rights to run a business either.

[Guvnah]

@party-free

Butthurt about what? Your little partisan tantrum?

Nothing partisan about what I said. Nothing in the least.

I just make you angry. Your replies show that.

[komobu]

@Grimalken

So it’s a simply question, can bakers refuse to bake wedding cakes for divorced couples, or non religious couples getting married judge or mayor, and not by a priest or Rabbi, etc…?

Why stop at one sin, for the religious conservatives out there, who sell to the public, lots of sinful acts take place, why limit themselves just to gay weddings?

From what I know of this man, I expect he would refuse to make a cake for a second marriage after divorce. That is clear in scripture, Do you automatically see him as a bigot who is running a scam or do you see him as a person who genuinely believes in his faith and is trying to live it out the best way he can?

[gooddad409]

@Guvnah

@party-free

Because he’s not doing it consistently.

… by your definitions.

Good thing you don’t get to define that for him.

@party-free

Homosexuality is not my sin, but it’s the sin of some very good people I know.

And … ??

Why demand that he participate in celebrating it if he considers it a sin?

@party-free

And the Christ this man allegedly serves didn’t turn away sinners.

Nope. but being a carpenter, do you think he would have built a new bed for the prostitute? He didn’t turn away the sinners, but he NEVER celebrated (nor even condoned) their sins.

He urged them to repent actually. He said he didn’t come to bring the righteous to repentance but sinners.

He certainly didn’t condone. You are absolutely right.

[gooddad409]

@party-free

@Guvnah

Oh well, then. So I guess you want me to repeat everything for you because you don’t want to read. And then party-free comes along and expects the same. And then the next lib. And the next.

Neither Grim nor I are libs. This is a discussion forum. People discuss things, sometimes the same things that someone else did. I mean, you could always refer to a post # instead of trying to get someone to go on a fishing expedition.

Oh you absolutely are. No question about that.

[gooddad409]

@party-free

@Guvnah

… by your definitions.

Good thing you don’t get to define that for him.

By the definition of the word “consistently.” Words have meanings.

@Guvnah

And … ??

Why demand that he participate in celebrating it if he considers it a sin?

He wouldn’t be participating.

@Guvnah

Nope. but being a carpenter, do you think he would have built a new bed for the prostitute? He didn’t turn away the sinners, but he NEVER celebrated (nor even condoned) their sins.

But he also didn’t turn them away when they came to him for something, or even when they didn’t. And we’re supposed to follow that example. Gay baker is a buffet Christian. There are too many of those these days.

I grew up in the Mormon church, and they’re some of the worst.

He taught them to repent.

[gooddad409]

@reflechissez

@gooddad409

Repetition doesn’t make you right.

Is there somewhere where you could live your life only by the religious principles that you believe?

I do live by my religious principles and will never take marching orders from libs or gays concerning that.

[WildRose]

“Go forth and sin no more”.

Christ wanted to engage sinners and show them the error of their ways, he did not wallow in sin with them and told them to give up their sins, repent, and ask forgiveness and lead better lives going forward.

[komobu]

It’s not moot at all.

If a friend of your son or daughter robs a store or bank, would you want your son or daughter to associate with this person? Would you want your son or daughter to let this person buy them things if your son or daughter knew that the specific money came from an armed robbery or even a drug deal where 15lbs of heroin were sold? If they dont know where the money comes from, that’s one thing. If they do know and go out and celebrate with the perpetrator, that is completely different and it is reprehensible.

This Baker sees himself as a child of Christ. He sees himself as the son or daughter I referenced in the proceeding paragraph. He wants to honor his Father with the talents he received from Him. He doesnt want to celebrate a union that his Father, his Christ, calls an abomination.