Supreme court block redrawing maps Ohio and Michigan

hindsight · 2019-05-25T02:15:37.466Z

Snow96:

You mean like this one?

https://assets.wired.com/photos/w_1753/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Maryland03.jpg

Exactly

Snow96 · 2019-05-25T02:18:22.124Z

hindsight:

Exactly

So would you agree with this:

Snow96:

I think congressional districts should be blind. As close a population as possible with no racial, political, or anythning else looked at. Should be as close as possible to county lines first. Then cities, then neighborhoods.

Zander · 2019-05-25T02:24:44.725Z

Hear hear

hindsight · 2019-05-25T02:32:11.517Z

No argument from me.

Safiel · 2019-05-25T02:47:18.176Z

Zander:

Snow96:

It was nick-named The praying mantis district. some think when colored in it looks like a praying mantis.

Thanks for posting it. It looks like a neon sign flashing “dirty politicians at work”.

We’ve GOT to fix this. Founders would be disgusted.

Are you quite sure about that???

Elbridge Gerry, the originator of the Gerrymander, was a founding father.

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Zander · 2019-05-25T03:30:19.110Z

Safiel:

Zander:

Snow96:

It was nick-named The praying mantis district. some think when colored in it looks like a praying mantis.

Thanks for posting it. It looks like a neon sign flashing “dirty politicians at work”.

We’ve GOT to fix this. Founders would be disgusted.

Are you quite sure about that???

Elbridge Gerry, the originator of the Gerrymander, was a founding father.

Oh Safiel. What do you not know? We are not worthy!

westaussie · 2019-05-25T03:31:50.208Z

Drawing up of electoral boundaries should be completely removed from ALL politicians.

conan · 2019-05-25T03:36:22.555Z

And put into who’s hands?

Some non partisan board that doesn’t exist?

westaussie · 2019-05-25T03:39:33.195Z

What is a none partisan board?

Safiel · 2019-05-25T03:48:33.372Z

Zander:

Oh Safiel. What do you not know? We are not worthy!

That is not exactly secret news from on high.

That is something everybody should have learned in 9th Grade American History.

Safiel · 2019-05-25T03:55:36.769Z

westaussie:

Drawing up of electoral boundaries should be completely removed from ALL politicians.

It has been done in a number of States, but in every case, it was done via a citizen’s initiative. I don’t think a legislature has ever voluntarily surrendered that power and several legislatures of both parties have fought tooth and nail to overturn citizen’s initiatives and get the redistricting power back.

Most States don’t have the citizen’s initiative, thus no way for the public to force the change, as their politicians are certainly not interested in doing it.

highroller · 2019-05-25T11:09:11.554Z

Yes!!

FloridaYankee · 2019-05-25T15:00:22.081Z

They would be remiss not to look at voter registrations and use that information to lay out districts that accurately reflect political demographics. Probably the only way that can be done is if both major parties participate equally in the process. A constitutional amendment might be the only way to accomplish that, cuz there ain’t no way all fifty states will adopt laws to do so.

FloridaYankee · 2019-05-25T15:07:02.462Z

conan:

The democrats has there own lines that helped them to maintain control of congress from mid 1930’s to 2000 or when ever. And they didn’t have a problem with it. Now that repugs are doing it that’s a problem.

Again not wanting others to play the rules they set up for themselves.

And for about half of that time, the conservatives were the democrats, so what does it prove?

Nothing, that’s what.

FloridaYankee · 2019-05-25T15:11:35.650Z

Zander:

Snow96:

You mean like this one?

https://assets.wired.com/photos/w_1753/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Maryland03.jpg

That actually might be one of the best examples out there. Never actually seen that picture before. Wow that’s bad. Really bad.

Yeah they used to and maybe still do sell t-shirts for this one;

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Plasmaball · 2019-05-25T15:47:27.973Z

Few states have gone independent non partisan and it hasnt worked out as well for the gop…so they will scream conspiracy.

If you applied the same council to a state like California you would have the same result as the gop. The left would whine if things turned for the better for the GOP. .

Some people cant see beyond their own ■■■■■■■■

blueapplepaste · 2019-05-25T15:49:53.088Z

conan:

The democrats has there own lines that helped them to maintain control of congress from mid 1930’s to 2000 or when ever. And they didn’t have a problem with it. Now that repugs are doing it that’s a problem.

Again not wanting others to play the rules they set up for themselves.

Or you know, maybe it’s bad when anyone does it.

Seems if it was so bad then, it should be equally reprehensible now. But then again principles have never been the GOPs forte.

Mountain_Soldier · 2019-05-28T02:50:39.398Z

Zander:

Snow96:

You mean like this one?

https://assets.wired.com/photos/w_1753/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Maryland03.jpg

That actually might be one of the best examples out there. Never actually seen that picture before. Wow that’s bad. Really bad.

That was Martin O’Malley, one of the darlings of the left.

Zander · 2019-05-28T03:22:58.735Z

Mountain_Soldier:

Zander:

Snow96:

You mean like this one?

https://assets.wired.com/photos/w_1753/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Maryland03.jpg

That actually might be one of the best examples out there. Never actually seen that picture before. Wow that’s bad. Really bad.

That was Martin O’Malley, one of the darlings of the left.

Okay. Do you think any darlings of the right have engaged in any gerrymandering? Or is this just tha libz?

One of my personal favorites was when the GOP lost the NC governor’s race so the legislature just stripped the governorship of a bunch of powers before the Democrat take office. That’s impressively creative.

westaussie · 2019-05-28T04:22:23.071Z

Glad to see that you all are in favour of my suggestion that there should be an independent body (similar to the Australian Electoral Commission) that draws up boundaries, conducts elections and counts the results.